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Posted on 11/28/2004 6:19:02 PM PST by LibWhacker
Edited on 11/28/2004 6:23:13 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]
Nor was it as nauseating as the pictures in an Israeli newspaper of ultra-orthodox soldiers mocking Palestinian corpses by impaling a man's head on a pole and sticking a cigarette in his mouth.
I am sure Iraqi Insurgents have pictures of this incident in their camps and they see no difference between the Americans and Israelis.
Somehow, I don't think we will think this incident is so funny when an Iraqi insurgent does the same thing to one of our boys.
Did the Guardian stage the incident?
Right. It's not like they put women's panties on his head, or something. ;)
Maybe they could have video taped the firefight between armed Arabs in Gaza on the Philidelphi road today?
Or maybe they could have video taped terrorists firing at IDF troops in the northern Shomron between the communities of Sanur and Homesh today...
And maybe they could have video taped the Kassam rocket that was fired into part of Israel today-
Oh wait, maybe those brave videographers could have taped the bomb found last night in the area of the Netzer-Hazani Industrial Park
Gosh, it must have just slipped by those brave peace activists....
If the Palestinian people will give up their "intifada" for a Gandhian approach of non-violence, I think it will do a lot more for their cause than they think. In this place, violence begets violence, you think they'd have learned this by now.
They made him play for two minutes or more - so it was a bit of a humiliation exercise. Not Porfessional, Not Necessary. Not Helpful.
It's kind of like the loser airport security screener giving you a hard time at the airport. No good comes of it.
Well, this is certainly much more worse than forcing a man to wear panties on his head (which my girlfriend does to me all the time and I love it! /sarc)
I'm sure the NY Times will have a series of hard hitting articles on this for weeks and weeks.
It's been a long time since anyone forced me to "play my violin".
Whenever I re-enter the US..they ask me what I've been doing overseas..just to see if I sound like the guy in the picture.
They were double checking this guy..just to make sure there was not bomb in his case etc.
Seeing him standing to play does not look demeaning in any way. Just prove that you are what you say you are.
When I read the title and the first few paragraphs, I though this was a joke ala Scrappleface; but then when I finished this tragic tale, I knew this was a joke ala the Guardian. Oh the humanity! Forced to play the violin!
Sh!+ they should make him tap dance and play the harmonica too. Good thing I'm not king of the world, I'd make him wash my car and feed my dog.
Wrong. The region isn't Arab. It is Jewish. Your existence does not need to be justified. To exist is not an injustice. Israel exists as the trees exist, it is there, men are born into it, it is their own. It requires the approval of no body of men, other than its own sons being willing to defend it. For which they need only be ordinary human beings, ready and willing to assert their right to live in freedom.
What an outrage........please....I was under the impression that they made him play it to see if he was legit or not.., maybe they shouldn't have laughed at him but I guess the Guardian would think it was more legit it that same man showed up with an explosives vest. Then of course it would be OK since blowing up innocent civilians is not nearly as bad as playing the violin at a checkpoint......what is wrong with this picture
If an Iraqi dead that to a dead American Boy we would all be outraged.
WHAT was the big deal for him to play TWO minutes?
Teh horrors! Asking a violinist to play for two whole minutes!
As the article said, and I pointed out, normally they don't even allow young men under 30 to pass in the first place.
Why should they take risks with the lives of innocent civilians to accomodate a possible potential terrorist? They were decent and gave this guy the benefit of the doubt, and now some people consider it an outrage?
You seem to forget that hundreds of innocent Israelis have been murdered by Palestinians, that's why they have the checkpoint in the first place. The Israelis aren't doing this to pass the time.
The rightwing Army Radio commentator Uri Orbach found the incident disturbingly reminiscent of Jewish musicians forced to provide background music to mass murder. "What about Majdanek?" he asked, referring to the Nazi extermination camp.
The critics were not drawing a parallel between an Israeli roadblock and a Nazi camp. Their concern was that Jewish suffering had been diminished by the humiliation of Mr Tayem.
It is easy from the comfort of your keyboard to be shocked by how men will act when you put them in barbaric situations.
The fact is at the end of the day American & Israeli soldiers act in much more humane ways than possible.
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Making that distinction is part of Moral Clarity, which Natan Sharansky talks much about in his new book, The Case for Democracy. Highly recommended book. Another key theme is the fundamental difference between free societies, like Israel, and fear societies, like the PA or Saddam's Iraq.
OH THE HORROR!!!!
"Did the Guardian stage the incident?"
I said consider the source, not that the Guardian staged the incident.
Did Kevin Sites stage the incident of the Marine shooting the terrorist faking death? No. But does that mean that his personal slant on it should not be questioned and we should just swallow his account of it without context?
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