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To: jocon307
Look at the prison statistics. Look around you in the world. Sorry, but it is true, for the most part violence, mayhem and destruction are caused by men.

...and women respond by giving themselves to the bad men, thus reinforcing their badness. Men are violent because women for thousands have years have rewarded male violence.

BTW... 45 million abortions, almost all done at the behest of women, and you still say that men are more prone to mayhem? Hmmmm.....

69 posted on 11/29/2004 8:04:03 AM PST by Rytwyng (we're here, we're Huguenots, get used to us)
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To: Rytwyng
...and women respond by giving themselves to the bad men, thus reinforcing their badness. Men are violent because women for thousands have years have rewarded male violence.

You are absolutely right about that.. But consider the sources and the cycles.. Women are attracted to violent men because they are attracted to men just like their own fathers. Men tend to treat their wives exactly like their father's treated their mothers. That can be a good thing, or a bad thing.

The old saying is absolutely true, children learn what they live. My 17 year old daughter is dating a boy that is so much like her own father it's uncanny! Even though she has sworn she'd never let someone treat her the way her father treated me. My mother and I have pointed out the similarities.. and she CANNOT seem to see them. Amazing!

The issue is not gender specific. Satan is destroying Christianity by destroying marriage and families, he's pulled out all the stops and the churches are not equipped to use the power of Christ, church discipline, accountability.. God's own word.. and they aren't unified in this front. If one church does have these things in place, the offending spouse can just switch to another that is more tolerant. If a cheating wife knew that after one or two witnesses she'd have to go in front of the whole church (IN LOVE) she just might change her ways. I think a lot more marriages could be salvaged if the church honed more skills then just condemnation.

73 posted on 11/29/2004 8:43:42 AM PST by ljswisc
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To: Rytwyng
Women feed the cycle of violence. By tolerating abusive husbands, they raise abusive sons and daughters who will wallow in their victimhood.

Women often cite "domestic violence" as a justification for divorce. But most domestic incidents are started (and strongly fueled by) the woman. They nag first and the majority of the time, women hit first too (men hit harder). Wives lack respect and husbands don't love wives. Why doesn't the situation ever change?

Ah well, Genesis 3:16, "And your craving will be for your husband, and he will dominate you."

75 posted on 11/29/2004 9:24:19 AM PST by DameAutour ("The dumber people think you are, the more surprised they're going to be when you kill them.")
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To: Rytwyng

"BTW... 45 million abortions, almost all done at the behest of women,..."

Well they are ALL done with the acquiesence of women, of that there can be no doubt. But I wonder just how many are done over the objections of men. Although I acknowledge that a good many may be done with out the knowledge of the man involved. But of the women I've know who have had abortions (5 that I can think of) 3 the men agreed to and/or insisted on the abortion, 2 I don't know about that detail. Doesn't excuse the situation, but I know of no situtations where the guy strenously objected. My guess is that in at least 2 of the 5 cases I do not about personally the man's willingness to see the pregancy through would have changed the situation. The other, I don't know.


80 posted on 11/29/2004 10:08:41 AM PST by jocon307 (Jihad is world wide. Jihad is serious business. We ignore global jihad at our peril.)
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