[elbucko]

All a Mexican...has to do is get a doctor to write a letter to the border agencies.

Do you have to get a letter from your doctor to visit your dying mother or father? I didn't think so.

You've missed the point. In order to tighten up on the illegal immigration side of the Mexican Border issue, we need to be more accommodating to Mexican US citizens and their concerns for their families in Mexico. Their families are their "family values". The party that caters to this concern will get the Hispanic vote. And practically, I don't care if it is "pandering", as long as it elects Republicans.

[texastoo]

If I were serving in Iraq and my wife had a baby or my daughter had a baby, I would have to wait until I had leave to see them. Mexicans get to come over the border the same day to see the mother and baby. If, while serving in Iraq, one of my family members were dying, I would have to have official notification before I could come home.

You have missed the point, the border is not tight. Most all the Mexicans have shopping cards for their family members and they come and go as they please.

Since you are pandering for votes, when does family values stop? I have seen Mexican claim first cousin, second cousin and all the way to the fifth cousin. How do you prove anyone is related to someone with all the fraudulent documentation going ons in Mexico?

You may be willing to sell out this country for votes for the Republican party, but I won't.

[FITZ]

How many Americans of Spanish ancestry do you really know who have close family in Mexico? Especially the pre-1980s amnestied? I know people whose families have lived in New Mexico for hundreds of years --- they have zero siblings and first cousins in Mexico. I really think it's a stereotype to believe that all hispanics living in the USA seek marriage partners in Mexico --- from what I see, Mexican citizens are just as likely to intermarry with whites as they are with hispanics --- which means whites could have the in-laws in Mexico.

As far as family ties --- it's kind of a non-issue --- if your family connections are with France or Germany --- that does not mean we MUST have open borders and unlimited immigration and visitor visas given to every European. When people marry with other nationalities, they know that going into the marriage.

[FITZ]

we need to be more accommodating to Mexican US citizens and their concerns for their families in Mexico.

And would the same hold true for every Arab, every Persian, every Chinese, every African, every Haitian? Everyone with distant family members in some foreign country can just forget a border exists?