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To: scripter
"But it's always a choice to engage in homosexuality (behavior)."

Here you are mixing two arguments.

One can decide to either engage or not engage in any action that's not involuntary (can't decide to not breathe). So rather than discussing what the tens of thousands of former homosexuals say, the more accurate thing would be discussing the fact that tens of thousands of homosexuals have decided not to engage in the homosexual act any longer.

Monks make a similar decision.

One more thing.

People are debating the ONE factor which decides whether you are a homosexual or not...I don't think anyone will ever come up with ONE factor.

54 posted on 11/28/2004 10:48:00 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
A penis is made to complement a vagina. There is no choice there. Babies are produced by finding a member of the opposite sex, no choice there. (even if artificial insemination it is still seeking out a member of the opposite sex)

However a person CHOOSES to utilize the identical genitals in a recreational sex partner.


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Meanwhile, Cornell University psychology professor Daryl J. Bem has theorized that biologically inherited temperament, played out through life experiences, determine sexual attraction. His "Exotic Becomes Erotic" theory says that people become "erotically attached" to those "from whom they felt different during childhood."

Most boys find girls to be different, novel or "exotic," as Mr. Bem calls it. In a typical heterosexual scenario, girls' exotic stimuli produces nonsexual physical arousal in boys. If a boy thinks he is with a potential sexual partner, the physical arousal he feels can become an erotic attraction.

However, if a boy grows up feeling "different" from other boys — which might happen to a boy with a gentle or artistic temperament — he may come to view other boys as different, novel or "exotic." This may explain how men develop erotic attachments to other men, says Mr. Bem, who invites more research into his theory.


59 posted on 11/28/2004 10:58:37 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Here you are mixing two arguments.

Actually I was making two separate statements, but it is a complicated issue because of how we define and view the word choice.

From looking at How Might Homosexuality Develop? Putting the Pieces Together, we see that science supports environment as the major factor in determining homosexuality. Through counseling we've seen homosexuals work through their confusion to have a correct view of their sexuality. These are known as former homosexuals.

There are also those who decide to stop homosexual behavior (homosexuality). Homosexuals at any time can change their behavior.

I don't think anyone will ever come up with ONE factor.

Indeed. There are major and minor factors behind homosexuality.

82 posted on 11/28/2004 2:12:50 PM PST by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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