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To: scripter
You, and the zealots at NARTH, completely misunderstand the work, the neural systems, and their meaning.

Never has it been sated in the research that homosexuality is genetic. LeVay's work pioneered work into evidence that there is a developmental disorder. Developmental NOT genetic. That is when something goes wrong between the "blueprint" of the gene and the production of proteins and the structuring of cells.

The subjects in such studies are genetically male and have no genetic abnormalities but something went awry in their early development that affected areas within a neural pathway of a neural system that controls sexual behavior. The hypothalamus, the basal ganglia, the amygdala are not 'gay centers' they are portions of a system that effects emotions and behavior. Alter the system - alter the output of that system.

As to "tens of thousands" of former homosexuals - that is a gross exaggeration. There are some who engage in homosexual behavior as a result of sexual abuse from when they were younger. The homosexual behavior is a symptom of a deeper trauma that produces many deviant behaviors. With proper therapy, some of these individuals can become more well adjusted in their sexual behaviors and relationships. This is one reason why homosexual behavior should remain in the DSM. However, that is a homosexual aberration from abuse - not the 'born gay' developmental disorder.

Cults like NARTH have a falsely inflated success rate. In actuality, the failure rate is about 85% and the recidivism rate of those "cured" is extremely high. This is from not understanding the population that requires treatment and the population that simply has a developmental disorder. It is easier to give sight to someone born blind than to 'cure' a homosexual with the NARTH brainwashing methods.

I'll leave you to trolling other old threads.

146 posted on 12/18/2004 2:15:38 AM PST by Ophiucus
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To: Ophiucus
... zealots at NARTH...Cults like NARTH

Yawn. There are many, many organizations that help homosexuals leave the lifestyle. Even Dr. Spitzer changed his mind that homosexuals can change, but don't let facts get in your way.

As to "tens of thousands" of former homosexuals - that is a gross exaggeration.

The facts state otherwise.

I'll leave you to trolling other old threads.

I'll leave you with some links regarding former homosexuals:


 Year

      Title
Posted
On FR



2004 
Critic Ignores Whole Truth About Ex-Gays  N/A
 
John Kerry's 'born-gay' science: Caleb Price debun  Yes
 
Kerry Discriminates Against Ex-Gays; He Denies The  Yes
 
Ex-Homosexuals Feel Insulted by Kerry's 'Born Gay'  Yes
 
More Than One Way Out  Yes
 
The Seeds That Grew  Yes
 
I Do Exist! -- New Video Focuses on Ex-Homosexuals  Yes
 
Changing minds  Yes
 
Homosexuality and the Possibility of Change: Intro  No
 
Masters & Johnson. Homosexuality in Perspective. (  Yes
 
The Great Escape (Mike Haley)  Yes
 
God's Amazing Grace (Stephen Bennett)  No
 
Matthew Manning's Testimony  No
 
Canada: Seven ex-gay clergy and laity to make stan  N/A
 
Study: Some Gays Can Go Straight  Yes
 
Eagles Wings Testimonies  No
2002 
Confession from a former homosexual  No
 
At least 50 others here  No
2001 
Former Homosexual Alleges EEOC Bias in Investigati  No
2000 
TV show ridicules former homosexuals  No

147 posted on 12/18/2004 7:37:49 AM PST by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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