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To: stockpirate

Carter may have pardonded him BUT he is in violation of
of the US Constitution 14th Amendment Section 3


10 posted on 11/27/2004 5:51:30 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Why do 99 US Senators allow a traitor in their midst?)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; stockpirate
Carter may have pardonded him BUT he is in violation of of the US Constitution 14th Amendment Section 3

And no presidential pardon has the authority to lift the ban on federal office under the 14th amendment. To lift the ban requires a 2/3rds vote by both the Senate and the House.

20 posted on 11/27/2004 6:00:21 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
I am not sure how that would work. If you are pardoned for a crime against the country can you still be held to the penalties? I think his career is over none the less. And I am in agreement with you completely on this issue. I don't think he should even be allowed to live in the US. He is a low life POS, IMHO.
21 posted on 11/27/2004 6:00:56 PM PST by stockpirate (Check out my bio and learn about sKerry and his Socialists friends.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
He is in violation of the law wherein if you miss a certain number of votes the Senate has to withhold your pay. The Senate chose not to enforce that law because it was last enfored 90 years ago.
2 USC Sec. 39, reads: “The Secretary of the Senate and the Chief Administrative Officer of the House … shall deduct from the monthly payments (or other periodic payment authorized by law) of each Member or Delegate the amount of his salary for each day that he has been absent from the Senate or House, respectively, unless such Member or Delegate assigns as the reason for such absence the sickness of himself or of some member of his family.”
They will simply just choose not to enforce this section of the Constitution as well. There is one set of laws for some people another set of laws for others. Then there are some people to whom laws don't count (John Kerry, Sandy Berger, et al.)
33 posted on 11/27/2004 6:15:20 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Carter may have pardonded him

Carter couldn't pardon him. The very first act Carter performed as Pres. - first HOUR! - was to pardon the draft dodgers, but Kerry wasn't a draft dodger - he had been an officer in the military...and had a less than honorable discharge from, I believe, 1972.

For his record to be covered up and reversed - it took a special board of inquiry - which was held...by the same list of perpetrators - We have a right to see all this. (He admitted that the medals he threw away hadn't been his - indeed, he proudly displays his medals on his office wall. HOWEVER, when you get a less than honorable discharge, you are required to turn in your medals. Kerry's medals were "missing" for several years and suddenly, all in ONE DAY, in 1985, they were reissued to him,)...follow the bouncing ball.)

Kerry may not be required, by law, to sign the 180 - BUT, I wonder if the other machinations can't be uncovered thru' Freedom of Information? = I believe this took place in 1978 - would it be in the Congressional/Senate/Navy records that could be requested?

49 posted on 11/27/2004 6:45:07 PM PST by maine-iac7 ( Pray without doubt..."Ask and you SHALL receive")
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Carter may have pardonded him BUT he is in violation of of the US Constitution 14th Amendment Section 3

Isn't that what he was pardoned for?

Another question. Can some future President pardon Clinton?

89 posted on 11/28/2004 7:34:12 AM PST by Netizen
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