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To: risk

A nice long post. Unfortunately, I don't think it addresses the question at hand, although it does a fine jig all around it. From our short dialogue, I think it safe to say we mostly agree on this issue. However, I think we view it a bit differently. I am a Christian. I believe each person may worship God, or not, in whatever way they choose. I think the laws of the land should uphold this basic human right. I think they do.

Do I think the law should eliminate religion from the public square? No. We are engage in a war between believers and unbelievers. The unbelievers use the tools of 'cultural relativism, moral equivocation, and post-structuralism' to good advantage. But many do not buy into the message. I'm one of them.


177 posted on 11/28/2004 7:42:48 AM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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To: TheDon

I also think our positions are very close, but the rhetoric we use is important and I understand we may continue to have our differences. I respect your positions, though. And like you, I am adamant about allowing Christianity in our public arena. Christmas, memorial crosses, 10 commandment icons, civic prayer, all of those things should be welcomed. I think it's important to be careful about how we refer to those religious practices, however. I'm clearly more worried about that than most here on FR.

The question at hand has several facets. On a "conservative forum," the interesting ones beyond mere advocacy are where we might learn from our differences. I think rhetoric is important, and I think those who would manipulate the faithful know this.

On the issue of federal, state, county, and city funding for Christian outreaches (e.g. faith based ministries) I haven't made up my mind. I think involving faith in ministry to the poor is a very positive thing, and I think the secular approach of the government is aseptic and unfeeling; it is also easy to corrupt. Maybe what I really want is an option to donate a portion of one's taxes to an approved charity list. But the Islamic outreaches will sneak in and snag their share; they also get into our prison systems this way. So will the Wiccan, and the other non-western belief systems which I find to be superstitious and backward.


181 posted on 11/28/2004 8:11:36 AM PST by risk
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