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Posted on 11/26/2004 5:37:54 PM PST by mommadooo3

Congress Approves Mustang Slaughter

PLEASE HELP, PLEASE PASS ON.......................

Stealthily tucked within a much larger appropriations bill (HR 4818) while no one was watching, Congress approved measures this weekend to end 33 years of Federal protection for an America Treasure, our "Living Legends" - wild free-roaming horses and burros on public lands. This bill seems to have broadsided everyone, including many BLM personnel, who had drafted their own plans to handle the problem, and thought their plan would work. Since both House and Senate have already passed it, the only hope left is to get Bush not to sign it - which he will do tomorrow, unless enough public outcry can be generated within the next less-than-24 hours.

The Wild Horse & Burro Act was signed into law in 1971, after a long campaign led by Velma Johnson, "Wild Horse Annie" and thousands of school children. Congress received more mail about wild horses than about Viet Nam. In today's crisis-weary world, is this the end for America's wild horses?

LINK to bill: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/Z?r108:H19NO4-0085:e758617:247850 The BLM part is about 1/3 of the way down the page.

I would suggest to EVERYONE you can get hold of, through phone calls, e-mails, chat rooms, equestrian sites, etc, anything......get them to call the president's comment line, fax letters to the fax number, and to e-mail both the president and vice president IMMEDIATELY. Please pass on to everyone for immediate action. Currently there are over 23,000 wild horses in holding facilities within BLM and their contract sanctuaries. 1100 new horses are being gathered from the Calico Mountains this month and next. If this passes, ALL, could potentially be sold to slaughter.


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Calico mountains horses slated to be gathered this month. Will they go to slaughter?

Tuesday, November 23, 2004 Copyright © Las Vegas Review-Journal

Congress passes less-restrictive wild horse bill

Measure sparks concern among animal activists who say it opens door to killing

By SAMANTHA YOUNG STEPHENS WASHINGTON BUREAU

WASHINGTON -- Aging wild horses and those that cannot be auctioned off as pets could be sold for slaughter under a bill that Congress passed over the weekend.

The legislation immediately sparked concern among wild horse advocates who said it could lead to the killing of thousands of healthy horses as the government drives to reduce herds on public lands.

Wild horses older than 10 or those that have unsuccessfully been put up for adoption three times may be sold "without limitations," at local sale yards or livestock facilities, according to the bill.

"If someone under this program can now buy 300 horses and ship them to a slaughter house people will start making money," said Howard Crystal, attorney for the Fund for Animals. "I would expect under this law we're going to have far higher numbers of horses going to slaughter."

The bill strips from federal law a clause that no wild free-roaming horse or burro can be sold or transferred for processing into commercial products.

The provision was tucked into a 3,000-page year-end spending bill that lawmakers largely completed on Saturday.

Sen. Conrad Burns, R-Mont., chairman of the appropriations subcommittee that funds the Bureau of Land Management, placed the measure into the bill after consulting with Sense. Byron Dorgan, D-N.D., and Harry Reid, D-Nev., Burns spokeswoman Jennifer O'Shea said.

"We've got to get the number of animals down to appropriate management levels and keep them there, but do it in a way that doesn't bankrupt us," Burns said in a statement. "This language is a step in the right direction. It gives BLM another tool to help get this under control."

Lawmakers have grown increasingly frustrated with the BLM's handling of the wild horse program, whose costs have skyrocketed as more and more horses have been taken off the range and placed into government-run holding fa- cilities.

Giving the BLM the authority to sell those horses could solve the agency's long-standing budget problems while allowing the agency to continue gathering thousands of wild horses from the public lands, a Senate aide said.

For each horse that is placed in a long-term holding facility, the BLM spends about $465 annually, or about $6.8 million a year.

The agency estimates there are about 36,000 horses in the wild, roughly 7,000 more than the government contends the land can sustain.

BLM spokeswoman Celia Boddington declined to comment on the congressional action.

"We've not yet reviewed the language," she said.

Unlike the adoption program, in which buyers are limited to four horses and must sign an affidavit promising not sell the horse to slaughter, the new sales would not have such restrictions, Senate aides said.

BLM officials long have contended that adopters don't want to buy older horses, forcing the government to place them at the long-term holding facilities at taxpayer expense.

In fiscal 2004, the BLM adopted out 6,650 horses out of the 9,900 horses it gathered from the range. The rest were sent to long-term sanctuaries in the Midwest.

Crystal said the new law would empower the BLM to round up herds of horses for adoption, knowing that many could later be sold for profit.

"You could have an adoption of year-old horses on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday with no advertising, and then sell to people at a yard sale," Crystal said.

Chris Heyed, a policy analyst with the Society for Animal Protective Legislation, called Congress' latest move "a systematic attack on wild horses."

"There is no other real other intent of dumping them into the market and slaughter is the only outlet," Heyed said.

In addition, the bill makes clear that it is no longer a crime to sell an aging or horse for slaughter, Crystal said.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: americanheritage; animalrights; blm; environment; horses
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To: CindyDawg

There are more riding horses for sale than there are buyers.
Once a buyer gets his/her Vet bill for a minor problem on top of monthly stable fees, shoeing, tack and feed the dream quickly goes away. Q: Just who is going to buy 1000's of WILD horses, break them, etc, etal?: A: Nobody.


41 posted on 11/26/2004 6:33:23 PM PST by TaMoDee
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To: CindyDawg
The Sale portion of the Text....... Two areas: 1] animals over 10 yrs old; 2] animals that have failed to be adopted three times

(2) by adding at the end the following:

    ``(e) SALE OF EXCESS ANIMALS.--

    ``(1) IN GENERAL.--Any excess animal or the remains of an excess animal shall be sold if--

    ``(A) the excess animal is more than 10 years of age; or

    ``(B) the excess animal has been offered unsuccessfully for adoption at least 3 times.

42 posted on 11/26/2004 6:33:43 PM PST by deport (I've done a lot things.... seen a lot of things..... Most of which I don't remember.)
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To: deport

It is a totally natural thing for a dog to eat a horse. And, as someone noted, they are animals. Thin them out and leave a healthy population.


43 posted on 11/26/2004 6:38:18 PM PST by tickmeister
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To: ORECON

I'm not sure how I feel about this since there are good arguments for both sides. I would like to clear up one misconception, though. Slaughter horsemeat does not go for dog food, it's shipped overseas for human consumption.


44 posted on 11/26/2004 6:39:26 PM PST by tuffydoodle
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To: deport

So this sale of text can't be changed?


45 posted on 11/26/2004 6:40:03 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: tuffydoodle

I stand corrected. It is a totally natural thing for a foreigner to eat a horse


46 posted on 11/26/2004 6:43:00 PM PST by tickmeister
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To: ORECON
I don't have any facts but I think you are wrong about horses not being indigenous. Furthermore, I would much rather spend my tax money on a noble creature that synonymous with the development of this country than a welfare junkie who has yet to contribute anything other than dissent.
47 posted on 11/26/2004 6:43:11 PM PST by Pointblank
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To: CindyDawg

So this sale of text can't be changed?



Next Congress, I'd guess. But why change it?

What are you going to do with the old, infirmed animals and those that aren't adopted. The land can only support so many animals then they over graze the land become malnourished and disease infested.... Better to move a selected few on and keep a viable healthy population.

If the human being is going to get in the way of nature doing it's job and attempt to manage a herd then they should at least try to follow natures natural progression. jmo.


48 posted on 11/26/2004 6:45:00 PM PST by deport (I've done a lot things.... seen a lot of things..... Most of which I don't remember.)
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To: mommadooo3
This REALLY makes me mad. I'm so sick of that bunch of jackasses in DC not doing their job!!! This is the result of putting together such large bills that they don't even read them. What total incompetence on the part of our elected officials. They are TOTALLY worthless!!
49 posted on 11/26/2004 6:45:18 PM PST by NRA2BFree (No matter the storm, when you are walking with God, there's always a rainbow waiting. :))
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To: BykrBayb
So who's supposed to bear the burden of caring for the horse the rest of his natural life?

That's the question.... and the answer that occurs to me is, whoever took on the task of rounding them up in the first place.

You bring it home, you take care of it. BLM decided they'd rather rent to ranchers and graze cattle on public land than let wild horses run. We eliminated the predators that used to keep down their numbers because they also killed the cattle. Now there are too many horses, too many of us.

This outcome is our creation, it's as ugly as holding pens for wild horses, and about to get uglier, nothing will be changed now... it's out of the sight of most of us.

If I can't save the thousands of old trusty saddle horses that work their whole life for people but are betrayed to slaughter when they break down, I can't save the ones that have no higher contract with us than that they were in our way.

50 posted on 11/26/2004 6:45:37 PM PST by HairOfTheDog (<<<loves her hubbit and the horse he rode in on :~D)
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To: Servant of the 9
Either humanely slaughter some or watch all the animals suffer and starve for months until enough die slowly to make room.

I can understand what you are saying. But these animals are not like deer. There ARE people who would take them in, care for them. Their bloodlines WOULD BE preserved. (There IS a difference between a horse and a mustang.) .

51 posted on 11/26/2004 6:45:59 PM PST by mommadooo3
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To: ORECON
These horses are not adoptable and will starve to death or force out native species. We either round them up and keep them in holding pens for the rest of their lives or sell them for dog food. If you want to save these horse, go adopt them or volunteer to pay for them. Don't use my taxes for you to have a Disney moment.

No thanks on the latter -- I've pretty much held Disney in contempt ever since realizing that the whole point of Bambi was to demonize hunters. :)

One of the points of my post, which you apparently missed, is that horses are, in fact, a native species and disappeared from the American continent because of humans. If BLM has any intelligence left, it would introduce the horse's natural predators back into its present environment (which were NOT humans, by the way), and that would take care of the problem, by and large.

52 posted on 11/26/2004 6:46:58 PM PST by Cooltouch
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To: mommadooo3; CindyDawg; dalereed; ORECON; farmfriend; Servant of the 9; TaMoDee
Cindy, thanks for the ping.

First, there are no longer thousands of mustangs roaming America's deserts. There are very few left, herds are being picked up rapidly. They will become inbred if something isn't done, since there will be so few left free.

Until that point, stallions will run off their sons and daughters to start new herds. They do not inbreed in the normal course of events.

The mustangs do not impact the environment in the same way that cattle, sheep or even deer do. They do much less damage both to the ground and the plants. That has been an ongoing argument with cattle ranchers for years.

The mustang is a distinctly American breed, again something that is ignored by those wishing them gone. The rush to round them up is terribly wrong. However, those rounded up have been gentled and trained in pilot programs at the state prisons. That benefits the horses, their future owners, and most of all, the prisoners themselves.

When I first moved to this area of Nevada, we could go out riding or four wheeling and count wild horses in amounts of fifty or sixty in several different bands that called this valley their range. Now, I go days without seeing one. Developers have moved in, along with people who don't care to have mustangs eating their lawn. (they could just fence it.)

Their endurance is incredible, and they have the unique instinct to always protect themselves and their riders.

For more information on them, go to Lacey J. Dalton's website, http://www.letemrun.com/ It is so sad that the mustang can't hide from man, like the coyote does. They are chased and trapped and betrayed at every turn.
53 posted on 11/26/2004 6:47:00 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: TaMoDee
Why not give them away instead of selling? I'm realistic about herds being thinned but in this day and age I can't see why reproduction can't be reduced and saving what we can. If we were going to hunt and eat them, I wouldn't but I wouldn't have a problem with someone else doing so. If the injured and ones in pain sold for meat so be it but why not give people the opportunity that have the space to adopt for no charge with no strings and just let them roam. Horses adjust .

In a park around here you can't kill a snake, scorpian or even a fly. All animals under protection. America public and private a big place. There has to be a better solution than thinning by slaughter.

54 posted on 11/26/2004 6:49:33 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: ORECON

ORECON is absolutely correct. I have not seen these horses in the US but I have seen them in Canada. They have no natural enemies and they over breed and over run the range forcing out other species. There is not room for all of them and the herd needs to be thinned, not destroyed, just thinned.


55 posted on 11/26/2004 6:49:58 PM PST by Ditter
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To: TaMoDee
Are you just trying to be funny? Hell I have never owned a horse but I can tell you I would resort to an emotional outbreak of bitch-slapping if you said that in my presence.
56 posted on 11/26/2004 6:50:27 PM PST by Pointblank
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To: BykrBayb

They don't have to advertise the adoptions, they make very little effort to do that now. And a swaybacked old stallion might make the perfect horse for little Jimmy if gelded and trained. They are a very smart animal.

'Course, they could have just left him on his range, where he was harming no one.


57 posted on 11/26/2004 6:50:38 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: tuffydoodle

When I was a kid I used to buy it once a week for cat food at the dog and cat food store after the butcher shop quit giving away liver for free.


58 posted on 11/26/2004 6:52:30 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Misterioso
If the horses are near and dear to the Lord's heart, I'm sure he will find a way to save them.

Just like those aborted babies.

59 posted on 11/26/2004 6:52:48 PM PST by Doe Eyes (Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life.)
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To: TaMoDee

Well, you know, there aren't thousands out there anymore. If they were just left alone, they would survive and maintain a stable population. They do not overbreed and in a couple of years, crowd out everything else. Another lie by the detractors by the way. Most bands have only a couple of foals a year, and loose the equal amount of adults to injury and death.


60 posted on 11/26/2004 6:54:10 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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