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Army abuse scandal widens (German Army torturing it's own!)
News24.com ^ | Nov 25 2004

Posted on 11/26/2004 5:36:14 PM PST by Trippin

Berlin - A scandal in Germany surrounding the alleged abuse of army recruits by their officers widened on Friday when the government revealed it had been informed of at least one other case.

A total of 20 non-commissioned officers and a captain are already under investigation by prosecutors in the western city of Muenster, accused of mistreating 80 of their charges at a barracks in Coesfeld, at least half of whom were doing national service.

But the army's representative in the Bundestag lower house of parliament, Willfried Penner, has been informed of more accusations of mistreatment, his spokesperson Guido Large told a weekly press conference.

"We are looking into this," Large said, but declined to give further details.

Administered electric shocks

Die Welt newspaper reported on Friday that the new case concerned a barracks in North Rhine-Westphalia and that the events resembled those in the case being investigated in Coesfeld.

One of the soldiers in that case told the top-selling Bild newspaper that instructors had tied up recruits, covered their heads and administered electric shocks.

There was a code word that recruits could use to end the exercise, but only one of the young soldiers used it, the soldier told Bild.

One non-commissioned officer in the Coesfeld case has admitted mistreating the recruits with electric shocks and "deeply regrets" his actions, his lawyer said this week.

The president of the Federation of German Soldiers (DBWV), Bernhard Gertz, said the revelations of mistreatment were a good reason to maintain compulsory military service, which has been the subject of a major debate in Germany recently.

"Someone doing military service is more likely to complain (about mistreatment) than a professional soldier," Gertz told the online newspaper, Netzeitung.

(Excerpt) Read more at news24.com ...


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1 posted on 11/26/2004 5:36:14 PM PST by Trippin
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To: Trippin
Unions and draft, can you say oil and water?
2 posted on 11/26/2004 5:40:15 PM PST by dts32041 (bortaS bIr jablu'DI' reH QaQqu' nay)
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To: Trippin
One of the soldiers in that case told the top-selling Bild newspaper that instructors had tied up recruits, covered their heads and administered electric shocks.

A culture must hold on to its cherished traditions... ;)

3 posted on 11/26/2004 5:41:30 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves
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To: Trippin

Whenever this kind of thing happens outside the US, I'm shocked! I thought only Americans can commit such crime against humanity... Who would have thought that the-ever-efficient-and-punctual Germans, who opposed the Iraq war, could do such things?


4 posted on 11/26/2004 5:41:34 PM PST by paudio (Four More Years..... Let's Use Them Wisely...)
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To: Trippin
One of the soldiers in that case told the top-selling Bild newspaper that instructors had tied up recruits, covered their heads and administered electric shocks.

At least they didn't put panties on their head. THAT would have been humiliating!

5 posted on 11/26/2004 5:55:01 PM PST by chudogg (www.chudogg.blogspot.com)
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All this and they couldn't help us out with Abu Ghraib?

The Germans have always been the definitive "nth" when it comes to hinky behaviour.


6 posted on 11/26/2004 6:16:58 PM PST by ishabibble ((Thank you Terry Kerry!!))
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To: Trippin

I read this article in the German paper and kept waiting and waiting until presto..it finally appeared. Of course this won't make the MSM news, and if it does it will be short lived. The Europeans can get away with anything and the rest of the world ignores it. But let us have one incident and their are major headlines all over for weeks on end.

You must remember "We are the Ugly Americans/Israelis and they are the Cultured Europeans"...


7 posted on 11/26/2004 6:23:56 PM PST by Ginifer
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To: Trippin

Pink panties?


8 posted on 11/26/2004 6:27:21 PM PST by hershey
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