Posted on 11/26/2004 4:50:22 PM PST by Truth666
"We see bright prospects of cooperation in the oil and gas sector, with Russia and Venezuela possessing huge resources, having rich experience and being the world's leading exporters," Vladimir Putin said after his meeting with the President of Venezuela.
President Hugo Chavez said that Moscow and Caracas had agreed on implementing contracts on joint oil extraction and refining in 2005.
The Venezuelan President also said that some of the joint projects are being implemented, particularly the extraction of bauxite at the Orinoco river for joint aluminum production.
LUKoil and the Venezuelan state company are to start work on mutual oil supplies. The issue concerns Russia's providing oil products to Venezuela and receiving oil supplies to provide for the American market.
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Venezuela will buy a hundred thousand Russian submachine guns, helicopters, anti-tank and air-defense weapons, Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said.
Isn't it obvious that Russia is attempting to bring Venezuela into the "Soviet" orbit?
Putin to Chavez:
"I'll trade you 50 million barrels of oil for a box seat to the next Miss Venezuela contest."
Or perhaps Pootie Poot is just saying that two can play at that game. If the West can pull Ukraine into its orbit the Russia can pull Venezuela into her orbit. There is a certain logic to it. And frankly, Pootie can have Chavez. The Venezuelans are going to kill him eventually anyway. Hugo will not outlast the next cyclical decline in oil prices.
"Or perhaps Pootie Poot is just saying that two can play at that game. If the West can pull Ukraine into its orbit the Russia can pull Venezuela into her orbit. There is a certain logic to it. And frankly, Pootie can have Chavez. The Venezuelans are going to kill him eventually anyway. Hugo will not outlast the next cyclical decline in oil prices."
Russia's subversion of Venezuela has nothing to do with tit for tat over our support of the Ukrainian opposition. Russia, China, the EU and several ME countries (to include Iran) have formed a Eurasian Alliance which has proved to be an enemy of the US on numerous occasions. BTW, we should be openly supporting the opposition in Venezuela...if not arming them.
OPEC dethroned, Putin's "KremPEC" arrives
We should be asking ourselves why America invests billions in NATO but has not created an energy resource alliance like OPEC for itself?
You can find the answer to your question above
My own post answers the question why AMerica nas never created its own version of OPEC? Please explain? Thanks in advance.
"Putin is cutting apart OPEC. Venezuela is a founding member state of OPEC"
Yes, Putin and his KGB strategists are attempting to destroy OPEC just like they are trying to split the US away from its friends and allies. For if Putin destroys OPEC, he knows that it is only a matter of time before the Islamofascists take over America-oriented countries like Saudi Arabia and Turkey (that's also why Russia/China are transforming Iran into a nuclear threat). Here is Anatoly Golitsyn on the overall strategy of what Dr. Nemets calls the "Eurasian Alliance" (his analysis is just as relavent today as it was then IMO):
Taken from Anatoly Golistyns book Perestroika Deception, 1995 (pp. 149-151)
Memorandum to the CIA: March 26, 1992
GEOPOLITICAL STRATEGIES OF RUSSIA, THE COMMONWEALTH OF INDEPENDENT STATES AND CHINA
In an earlier Memorandum to the CIA this analyst explained the common Sino-Soviet strategy of convergence with the West and the intended exploitation for the purposes of this strategy of the new openings arising from the reformed political structure of the former USSR and the emergence of the alleged democrats, non-Communists and independents who are running it.
The present assessment show how, because of Western ignorance of and confusion about the strategy underlying perestroika and because of Western political and economic support for the so-called reform of the Soviet system, the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS) has been successfully installed and has begun to carry out concrete new geopolitical strategies within the framework of the long-standing overall Communist strategy of convergence.
These strategies are still being guided and coordinated by the same Soviet strategists who have simply shifted away from the use of the old worn-out ideology and the familiar but obsolete patterns, to the exploitation of geopolitical factors and of the new potentialities of the reformed Communist system. The common feature of these geopolitical strategies is the manipulation and use of the democratic and independent images which the change in form from the USSR to the CIS and its individual members has provided so abundantly and the nature of which the West has, so far, failed to comprehend.
The following upgraded strategies may be distinguished:
THE FIRST STRATEGY involves the CIS and Russia in particular dealing directly with longstanding American allies like Germany and Japan and causing their allegiance to be shifted away from the United States towards economic and political alliance with the CIS and especially with Russia.
To this end Russia is exploiting American economic rivalry with Germany and Japan, together with the large-scale involvement of Germany and Japan in economic cooperation with Russia and the offer to them of lucrative market and investment opportunities in Russia. China can be expected to join in this campaign to steal away old American allies by concentrating on offering the Japanese various investment opportunities in China.
A SECOND UPGRADED STRATEGY involves the use of the new independent Muslim states in the CIS to establish and develop economic and political cooperation with the fundamentalists in Iran and elsewhere in the Muslim world.
According to this assessment the much-advertised feud between the Armenians and the Azerbaijanis of Turkish descent in Nagorno-Karabakh may be a tactical ploy to involve Turkey, Iran and other Muslim countries in support of eventual alliance with Azerbaijan and other Central Asian Muslim states in the CIS. This strategy takes into account the growing power of the fundamentalists and the possibility of their gaining control over substantial oil reserves.
A primary objective of the strategy here is to achieve a partnership with the fundamentalists in Iran and Algeria and to replace the present American-Oriented rulers of Saudi Arabia with fundamentalists. The opening in Saudi Arabia of a Russian Embassy and the probable opening of Embassies by Muslim states of the CIS (read: Russian puppet governments) should be seen, not only as an attempt to extract a few extra Saudi Billions, but as part of an offensive to bring about a political reorientation in that country.
Chinese Muslims can also be expected to play an active role in promoting alliances with the fundamentalists. The supply of missiles to Iran by the Chinese should be looked at in the context of this strategy.
THE THIRD STRATEGY is to facilitate a shift of the emerging regime in South Africa from the Western sphere of influence towards close economic and political cooperation and alliance with the CIS using for this purpose old friendships with the leaders of the African National Congress and the South African Communist Party with which it is effectively merged. One can expect that the offensive to facilitate such a partnership will become more active and more visible than ever, after the reforms in the CIS and South Africa have stabilized.
THE FOURTH STRATEGY is that of using and manipulating the changes in the former Soviet Union to bring about, in the longer run, radical changes in relations between the United States and Israel, in the political power structure in Israel itself, in Israels position in the Middle East and in world opinion towards Israel.
The fact that the new leaders in Russia have promised the withdrawal of Soviet troops from Germany, the Baltic countries and Poland, and that they are insisting on a seven-year term for the strategic arms reduction treaty being negotiated with the United States, are indications that the Russian strategists have their own timetable. This is not based on what is going to occur in the CIS according to the optimistic expectations of Western observers, but rather upon the Soviet estimate of the time needed for the strategies described above to take effect. The possibility that the United States will lose valuable allies during this period is not something new. There is nothing permanent in international relations. The Americans experienced this not so long ago when they suddenly lost Iran.
The vulnerability of the United States arises from the fact that its basic premises, assumptions and perceptions about the present and future Russia and the CIS are wrong. Where the United States sees golden opportunities, it is in reality facing traps set for it by the Soviet long-range strategists. The impact on the United States of the successful execution of these strategies would be devastating.
The loss of old allies and the loss of oil reserves, following the equally catastrophic loss of South Africa, would result in the re-emergence of the CIS and China as stronger adversaries, and in an irreversible change in the balance of world power in their favor. The United States would be weakened and divided and the pressure for the impetus towards convergence of the CIS and China with the United States on Sino-Russian terms would be intensified.
I meant this line "Ukraine is the end game."
I thought Putin was smarter than this. The guy is sitting on incredible resources and he needs to do deals with Chavez? Chavez is a Fidel wannabe.
and then the UFOs will land.
Bad comparison. Since Kennedy the US never tried to remove Castro.
Its very smart - because Putin is splitting apart OPEC.
"I thought Putin was smarter than this. The guy is sitting on incredible resources and he needs to do deals with Chavez? Chavez is a Fidel wannabe."
Russia doesn't need Chavez's oil. Putin and his KGB strategists (as part of the much larger Eurasian Alliance) are attempting to form anti-American alliances in the Americas. The idea is to slowly isolate and ultimately diminish/damage the US.
Watch out for the new "moderate" marxist who will be running for president in 2008....she'll make them look like pikers...
FMCDH(BITS)
Just trying my first tagline ...
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