Russia and Immigrants From the USSR (Attempts to Control Russian Immigrants, especially Jews)

Newsmax ^ | Alexandr Nemets

[TapTheSource]

Not surprising, but disconcerting nevertheless. Do any Russian Immigrants/Russian Jews (especially those living in the US/Israel/or Europe) have any additional information they can add to this thread???

[TapTheSource]

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[investigateworld]

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[Mears]

There are so many Russian immigrants in my area that the local newspaper has a page of ads once a month that are all in Russian.

All of the local hospitals have many Russian interpreters.

They all poured into my area in the early eighties.

They have most of the senior housing and most of the subsidised housing.

This is in Boston(Brighton-Allston area),Brookline,and Newton Mass.

[Ginifer]

Another case of smiling in your face while stabbing you in the back. It's just so despicable that over and over the Jews are always being used and abused by most of the world. What have they ever done besides work hard, get educated, and succeed?

[TapTheSource]

"What have they ever done besides work hard, get educated, and succeed?"

They wrote the Bible...the "world" will never forgive them for that.

[PeterFinn]

The answer to this problem is to have all US immigrants immersed in English and required to vote in English, do business in English, drive in English (not required in California...unbelievably), and go to school in English.

We currently have Mexican, Chinese (Nationalist & Communist), Russian, Former Soviet Bloc, and Muslim immigrant groups creating enclaves inside the USA.

We are ENCOURAGING the Balkanization of America with this cultural suicide.

"America" and "American" will cease to be identities if we keep tolerating this insanity.

[MonitorMaid]

Interesting Article. My friend had an anti-Christmas pamphlet on her car the other day. She had traced it back to a website that has over 100,000 participants, mostly of Russian Jews. They are based in New York.

Here is the pamphlet - Campaign to abolish Christmas
http://www.noahide.com/xmas.htm

The website is just awful and it says that it is every jews responsibility to destroy Christianity. Lots of other terrible stuff about Christ as well.

Do you suppose these the people on this website and your article are related?

[AuntB]

Do a google search for muslim/hispanic. The numbers are quite impressive of converts to Islam and the many hispanic Muslim centers in the US and Mexico.

[TapTheSource]

"Do you suppose these the people on this website and your article are related?"

No. I am familiar with this organization. They are indeed anti-Christian, but they are also anti-Communist/anti-KGB/anti-Putin. They do, however, reference attempts of KGB-types to infiltrate the Jews (whether their account is true or not, I cannot tell). But you overestimate their influence...as far as I can tell they are turning off everybody...Christians, Jews, and everybody in between. Indeed, if memory serves, the Jews who owned the website in New York tossed them out of their Synagogue/Yeshiva (that's why they were forced to start a new website). Still, it really bothers me that of all the people they could go after, they have targeted Christians. I know they have the right to say what they want, but I sincerely wish that website would just go the way of the dinosaur!!!

[MonitorMaid]

Thanks for the reply!

My friend was flabbergasted at the flyer and we knew it was nothing any of our Jewish friends would endorse. We both figured it was some communist organization using the Jewish people as a front. Thanks for setting me straight.

[maksim]

These guys are Hasids - ultraconservative religious sect. They are of a strong and often hostile opinion about many things including majority of the Jews who do not share their believe. Being extremists they do not represent Jewish community in the slightest.

[nw_arizona_granny]

Thank you for posting an important article, that everyone should read.

Am I correct, that Russia and the KGB/Putin, had full intention of using these people as spies?

How nice, Russian spies, already in place.

Same as the terrorists.

No mess, no fuss, simply take over time.

[TapTheSource]

"How nice, Russian spies, already in place."

These people aren't Russian spies per se. But the KGB is attempting to make inroads into these communities for espionage and other nefarious purposes. I posted the article to warn your average American and unsuspecting Russian immigrants who may one day become the target of these unsavory characters.

[dennisw]

I know those Allston Brighton highrises. Full of Russian senior citizens who have some here to retire courtesy of our Social Security payments and other Federal goodies such as Medicare and subsidized housing. Few of these seniors ever paid into Social Security or it was very minimal.

[Centurion2000]

Not surprising, but disconcerting nevertheless. Do any Russian Immigrants/Russian Jews (especially those living in the US/Israel/or Europe) have any additional information they can add to this thread???

My fiancee and I returned from Russia 3 days ago ... so far, first impressions from her ?

"I never want to go back."

[FreeReign]

Do a google search for muslim/hispanic. The numbers are quite impressive of converts to Islam and the many hispanic Muslim centers in the US and Mexico.

Muslims in Mexico?

That contradicts this source that says there are no Muslims in Mexico.

[Paperdoll]

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[Paperdoll]

>How nice, Russian spies, already in place<

Not only that, the US government pays them SSI and food stamps as soon as they locate here!

[AuntB]

Interesting chart. It shows zero for central, South America, Mexico.

Here's a bit of what I found:
Muslims/Mexico
http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Park/6443/LatinAmerica/hispanic_growing.html
Number of Hispanic Muslim converts growing - Houston Chrinicle

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As the new generations of Muslim immigrants grow in Latin America, their affiliation with their countries' needs is never compensated while establishing their Muslim identity. In Peru, Muslims have become aware of their country's orphan problem. With this in mind, Latin American Muslim Unity (LAMU), based in Fresno, California, has drawn up a proposal for the first Islamic orphanage in Peru, in order to deal with the current crises of a multitude of homeless children, who are victims of kidnapping for organ harvesting and purchasing, and mass assassinations by police squads. LAMU also channels extensive funds to Muslim da'wah programs in Mexico and Peru.

In Mexico, the Centro Cultural Islamico de Mexico (CCIM), is both a mosque and centre for da'wa. Da'wa being its main objective next to being a religious centre, CCIM is active in obtaining and translating books and Islamic texts into Spanish, have produced 13 publications, as well as run a radio program on Islam. Their small mosque pushes forth great efforts and is home to 150 new shahadas in the Mexican community since its inception in 1994.

Although a great Muslim history is becoming more prevalent in Latin America, a surge of Latino reversion and Islamic activism in the United States has been astonishing, a phenomenon covered in American media in recent years. Due to the United States' reigning minority of Latinos, the constituents' activities' in general are monitored closely. News stories of Latino reversions to Islam have been covered in major publications such as the Los Angeles Times and The Christian Science Monitor, as well as in public television news programming. In 1997, the estimated number of Latino Muslims in the United States was approximately 15,000 according to the American Muslim Council in Washington DC. As the wave of Latino reversions has increased intensely, a new poll is being taken this year, which will exceed this number by far. One of the largest Latino Muslim communities, Los Angeles is home to the ILM Foundation, which runs a series of Islamic classes in the Spanish language. These classes were started by a group called the Latino-Muslim Movement. Some of the highest concentrations of Latino reversions have been in New York, New Jersey, Chicago and Miami. In New York, a group of Puerto Rican Muslims opened an Islamic centre in the heart of East Harlem called Alianza Islamica, where hundreds of Latinos have reverted since 1992. The centre, the first of its kind, includes a small mosque where the Friday khutba is heard in Arabic, English and Spanish. PIEDAD (Propagacion Islamica para la Educacion e la Devocion a Ala' el Divino), based in Washington DC, is a Latin Muslim Women's Association, which deals with the counselling of Muslim women as well as da'wa geared toward non-Muslim Spanish-speaking women. PIEDAD also has worked in collaborative da'wa efforts with NIPA (National Islamic Prison Association).

All Latino Muslim entities across the United States are affiliated with the endeavours toward da'wa material in the Spanish language, which includes both translation and dispersal. Some others include Asociacion Latina de Musulmanes en las Americas (Latin Association of Muslims in America) of California, The Latino American Dawa Organization of New York, Sociedad de Musulmanes Latinoamericanos (Latin American Muslims Society) of Washington DC, Bism Rabbik Foundation of Florida, and Centro Islámico de Traducción e Información (Islamic Centre of Translation and Information) of New Jersey. There are currently two different published translations of the Quran in the Spanish language. The Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), holding some of the largest annual conferences in the United States is the first to present a "Conference on Islam among the Latino Americans", which will be held on June 30 to July 2, 2000.

As the wave of reversions to Islam by the Latino-community continues, the process of transformation holds a different significance to each individual shahada. Some Latin Muslims find it is a return to the ancestry of their Moorish blood. Others find the concept of freedom from race identification to be one of Islam's assets. Still others find solace in the religion from the confines and inauthenticity of their culture's tradition of Catholicism. The Los Angeles Times interviewed Reymundo Nur and Saadiq Saafir, leaders of the Latin Muslim community, at the ILM Foundation. " 'We all realise that we're Muslim first,' Saafir said. 'This religion is going to bring us together.' Nur nodded. 'Inshallah,' he whispered. 'God willing.'"
http://www2.islamicity.com/LatinoMuslims/articles/spanishummah.html
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