Posted on 11/25/2004 8:56:53 AM PST by DTA
major anti-semitism ping
SOROS ping
I was hoping someone would eventually bring to light the anti-semitism of the Luschenko party. I fear for the Jews in Ukraine after he barges his way into power.
Kiev
Ukrainian Jews mirrored the rest of the country in this week's presidential elections both in how they voted and in their strong reactions to the controversial results.
Many Jews, pleased with the status quo, supported Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovich, who was backed by the government in Sunday's runoff vote.
"I voted for stability in Ukrainian society," said Pyotr Rashkovsky, head of the Association of Jewish Communities of Small Towns of Ukraine, which unites Jewish groups in a dozen former shtetls in the central part of the country. "I know that most Jews in my region also supported Yanukovich."
But others echoed the sentiments of the estimated 100,000 to 200,000 Ukrainian voters who took to the streets of Kiev on Monday after Yanukovich was declared the winner over the liberal opposition candidate, Viktor Yuschenko.
"After the total falsification of the results of the presidential elections, the people demand to announce Yuschenko the next president," said Eduard Gurvitz, a Jewish member of Parliament and former mayor of Odessa who supported Yuschenko.
The choice of the new president may prove crucial for Western and Russian strategic interests in Eastern Europe.
According to the Central Elections Commission, Yanukovich won about 49.4 percent of the vote and Yuschenko received 46.7 percent. In the first round of voting on October 31, Yuschenko led Yanukovich by less than 1 percentage point, according to the official results.
Many Jews are believed to have voted for Yuschenko and generally followed the nationwide pattern, with the younger, urban and better-educated voters favoring the opposition.
But with no valid data in existence, some observers believe probably as many, if not the majority, of Jews still backed Yanukovich partly because they feared the rising Ukrainian nationalist sentiment.
Many Jews were afraid of speaking openly about their choice even after casting their vote, as were many Ukrainians. Up to 40 percent of respondents refused to talk to those conducting exit polls, local media reported.
"People are afraid of the authorities," one Jewish voter in Kiev said. "And many Jews may have found themselves even in a more difficult situation knowing that many wealthy Jews sponsoring Jewish community programs support the authorities and particularly Yanukovich."
Indeed, some of the leading domestic sponsors of Jewish life in the region backed Yanukovich, reflecting the fact that many Jewish big business owners have played a prominent role in Ukraine's economy during the current regime.
For many of Ukraine's Jews, estimated at between 250,000 and 500,000, the election was a difficult choice between the liberal Yuschenko, who in the past has allied himself with politicians openly expressing anti-Semitic views, and Yanukovich, who has displayed authoritarian traits but has promised stability, which appeals to Jews in a region where instability has historically led to anti-Semitism.
Some Jews said they believed Yanukovich would be better at fighting anti-Semitism and xenophobia partly because of his past statements on Jews and Israel, and partly because of Yuschenko's mixed record on Jewish issues.
"I'm sure that Yanukovich is able to prevent" radical nationalism from developing in Ukraine, said Aleksandr Naiman, a leader of the Ukrainian Anti-Defamation League, a group not related to ADL.
At the end of September, Yanukovich visited Israel. He met with President Moshe Katsav and members of the Ukrainian community to discuss the issues of dual citizenship and payment of pensions to Jewish pensioners from Ukraine now living in Israel.
Only 3,106 out of nearly 40,000 eligible Ukrainian voters in Israel cast their ballots.
just who is george soros?
The forerunner to the antichrist. Do an FR search for Soros to learn a lot. He is a billionaire from Hungary who likes to manipulate markets to make money, and then he spends his money supporting abortion and euthanasia all over the world.
And is Yushchenko antisemitic, or does he just accept money from strange bedfellows?
"Western television viewers and newspaper readers are being fed on a diet of propaganda about the current crisis in Ukraine. The orange flags and uniforms of the opposition fill our screens and decorate the front pages. People power and Western-orientated democrats are on the march against evil ex-communist oligarchs. Good is battling against evil for the soul of Ukraine.
Sadly it is not so simple. "
Thanks for the ping.
That is exactly the point, that things aren't so simple, in fact are very complex, and the media is not giving us all the information.
They want Yushchenko elected, just as much as they wanted Kerry elected. That should make people stop and think.
The media is also letting people believe that virtually all Ukrainians are supporting the opposition, and Yanukovich is forced on them. I only saw a couple of articles which mentioned that there actually have been years of strife between the Eastern and Western half of Ukraine, where Yanukovich is supported mostly in the East, and Yushchenko by the Western half.
"Borys says simply that it is "not clear what Yushchenko might bring to the country" and adds that the economy has been doing well under the current prime minister's stewardship.
"It is insulting for me that they consider me to be a silly animal. I wholeheartedly support Viktor Fiodorovych Yanukovych. To begin with, I know him. He is very decent, good, powerful -- a man with strong will power. I feel insulted when they say that nobody voted for him. I am from Kyiv. I voted for him, my family did, my children did, grandchildren did, and my mother did. Why they are insulting me?" Svitlana says.
"Me, as a human being, as a woman feel that Yushchenko is not a leader. And Yanukovych is the leader of our country," Svitlana says. "
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1288359/posts
thanks.
ask, + you shall receive!
Same tactics too. Remember the calls for riots if Bush won?
ping
Helsinki Human Rights Group ?
I'm sure they claim that Bush is a fascist.
Let's hear from you.
In war things are topsy turvy and one can best only trust a spy to be a spy. One clue that should give pause is the consent for the popular dispute by Lech Walesa and Vaclav Havel as well as the dissent of the U.S. and Canadian governments against the corruption in the elections. Soros is a bogeymen who may buy votes, but I really don't think that this is what these campers are about.
Screw Yushchenko and screw Soros.
Best post of the day.
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