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The pajamahadeens are digging their own graves (FR Featured)
Toronto Star ^ | Nov. 25, 2004. 01:00 AM | ANTONIA ZERBISIAS

Posted on 11/25/2004 7:52:43 AM PST by HighWheeler

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To: HighWheeler
By checks and balances, Klein meant the rigours of professional journalism

Obviously, he's never been exposed to the "rigours" of posting at FR. I'm happy to say I've dished out some of those "already been posted" and "what is your source" checks and balances myself.

441 posted on 11/30/2004 9:55:38 AM PST by hispanarepublicana (Miss Free Republic High School-198?)
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To: HighWheeler
Hey, let's have some fun with this ditz.

Specifically, she's too stupid to realize that what we do holds MSM types to even higher standards than they are accustomed to, hence the annoyance.

Let's prove our point by scouring some of her own past work for errors and inconsistencies here .

Want a sample of how, well, idiotic she is? I randomly selected her October 13, 2004 column and found this little gem:

"CNN is blaming Canada this week, with an over-hyped and sloppy series purporting to show how we're just shot through with "terror loopholes" and "lapses" here in the frozen north. Seems we're a "staging ground" for "Canadian Jihadist Radicals."

Whoa, stop the presses (pun intended)! Is Ms. Zerbisias *gasp* casting subjective aspersions upon a respected, revered member of the mainstream media?

(*Nearly breathless*) Why, why, she's questioning the " rigours of professional journalism", relying instead on "the opinionating of" her subjective (and, I noticed, unsubstantiated) viewpoint? "Ironically" in this particular column, Ms.Zerbisias "mostly feed(s) off the work of professional journalists who (did) the legwork" on the CNN piece.

How shocking! She best be careful lest she "dig her own grave" with such comments.

442 posted on 11/30/2004 1:06:26 PM PST by LincolnLover (FairTax BUMP, now and always!)
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To: LincolnLover

Heheheheheh, nice job on the investigative reporting of an Old Media Journalist.


443 posted on 11/30/2004 7:08:17 PM PST by HighWheeler ("The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." Plato)
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To: HighWheeler

"But, just like trigger happy celebrants in the Middle East, who have yet to figure out that what goes up must come down, they can't see that, by firing up at us, they will also kill themselves."


NOT UNDERSTANDING THE NATURE OF LIBERTY, the Liberal Left may liken informed citizens to "trigger happy" tyrannical jihadists, but they only unmask their own ignorance!

If they understood HOW and WHY America became the beacon of liberty for oppressed people from all over the world, they might liken knowledgeable citizens (the so-called "pajama" fighters) of 2004 to Paul Revere of the Revolutionary Period.

When will they learn that the intellectual boundaries of citizens are no longer limited to what the three major networks (mouthpieces of the Left) report as "fact" night after night? Modern technology has made the Dan Rathers of the world practically irrelevant for those citizens who search for truth.


444 posted on 12/01/2004 7:59:23 AM PST by loveliberty2
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To: loveliberty2
NOT UNDERSTANDING THE NATURE OF LIBERTY, the Liberal Left may liken informed citizens to "trigger happy" tyrannical jihadists, but they only unmask their own ignorance!

You sound like a zoo tourguide explaining the bizzare habits of a near-extinct species of animal that only exists in afar away place.

(maybe you really are.)

445 posted on 12/01/2004 2:43:44 PM PST by Only1choice____Freedom ("Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers; pray for powers equal to your tasks,"-President Bush)
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To: HighWheeler
"You couldn't have a starker contrast between the multiple layers of checks and balances (on network news) and a guy sitting in his living room in his pajamas writing." By checks and balances, Klein meant the rigours of professional journalism — and not the opinionating of the blogosphere.

Lemme get this straight. CBS couldn't figure out that the documents were forgeries when they were clearly printed on a laser printer. Meanwhile, within 48 hours of the 60 Minutes II report, or in far, far less time than CBS took to create and vet this story, freepers had completely dissected every argument on the memos, including refuting problematic arguments that CBS later used to try and discredit the arguments against the memos, such as the claim that typewriters back then couldn't do superscripts.

But we're the ones without checks and balances.

Debating points on FR are fire-tempered. The liberals completely fail to understand that process. Which is why we kick their rumps week after week.

446 posted on 12/01/2004 2:48:33 PM PST by dirtboy (Tagline temporarily out of commission due to excessive intake of gin-soaked raisins)
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To: HighWheeler

This from the same paper:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1292272/posts

"Stripper Shortage a National Disgrace" - Toronto Star.


447 posted on 12/01/2004 2:52:50 PM PST by Only1choice____Freedom ("Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers; pray for powers equal to your tasks,"-President Bush)
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To: HighWheeler
It's true that journalism's checks and balances have been known to fail. When they do, news organizations crash and burn in spectacular fashion.

Really? How about an example? Jason Blair -- did that sink the NYT? The Pulitzer Prize Winner at the Wash Post who made up a 6-year old junkie? Did the Post crash and burn and the Pulitzer committee go out of business?

This is but another MSM flunkie rationalizing a failing industry that has been taken over by ideologues and incompetents.

What is crashing and burning are circulation and Nielson ratings --- across the board.

448 posted on 12/01/2004 2:57:59 PM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: HighWheeler

This knucklehead assumes we want the MSM to die. We don't we want them to REFORM OR DIE. There's a difference.


449 posted on 12/01/2004 5:13:38 PM PST by Tamar1973 (Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats-- PJ O'Rourke)
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To: HighWheeler

"But, just like trigger happy celebrants in the Middle East, who have yet to figure out that what goes up must come down, they can't see that, by firing up at us, they will also kill themselves."

What is he talking about? So we should just be quiet? What a moron.


450 posted on 12/02/2004 5:58:54 PM PST by RepublicanHippy
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To: HighWheeler

She doesn't get it. The Pajamahadeen is not about shooting bullets into the sky. It's about openness of information. It's about individual experts now owning virtual printing presses and broadcast channels through our participation in the web. It's about the ability to get past biased gatekeepers in our new media. Our celebration of the month of November honored this new reality; it was not an end in itself and it does not threaten our ability to promulgate truth.


451 posted on 12/02/2004 6:23:23 PM PST by jimfree (I'm sure becoming more political after 50.)
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To: HighWheeler
Ironically, bloggers mostly feed off the work of professional journalists who do the legwork. But, like parasites too stupid to realize they are killing off their hosts, the pajamahadeen don't get it every time they dig more dirt for our mass grave.

Oooohhh! That is just soooo Canadian! Crawl back into your collective, Boris.

452 posted on 12/02/2004 11:43:37 PM PST by GVnana (If I had a Buckhead moment would I know it?)
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To: Constantine XIII

Major Clymer!


453 posted on 12/02/2004 11:44:40 PM PST by GVnana (If I had a Buckhead moment would I know it?)
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To: CaptRon

>>It's the author of this self-congratulting article who doesn't get it. If the result of the pajamahadeens efforts is a more responsible and accurate press, their work has been a success.<<

Honest truth: the odds of that actually happening are what, 1 in a million? We should recognize what we're doing: The MSM has become so opinionated and inflexible that we are destroying it by attacking. We're replacing news organs like the NYT and WP with net-based commentary akin to the Village Voice on the left and the National Review on the right. The center has not held, and it is giving way to chaos. Fox News is conventional warfare; blogs and bbs are guerilla warfare, and will result in anarchy.

So why do I support blogs and bbs? Because anarchy is better than the current police state. (And please, I am using "police state" as an analogy.)


454 posted on 12/03/2004 10:43:23 AM PST by dangus
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455 posted on 12/03/2004 10:47:16 AM PST by dangus
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To: HighWheeler

OK, there was a picture of droopy dog, for comparison with Antonia, but it may not have published correctly. Just in case you were wondering why I reposted her picture.


456 posted on 12/03/2004 11:17:13 AM PST by dangus
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To: HighWheeler
By checks and balances, Klein meant the rigours of professional journalism — and not the opinionating of the blogosphere.

8-) Keep digging.

457 posted on 12/03/2004 11:21:44 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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458 posted on 12/03/2004 1:03:48 PM PST by dangus
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To: dansangel
This was a reply to an e-mail that I sent to the writer..

One thing I would like you to think about, please. Where would the news sites you rely on get their news from if there were no old media doing the legwork? Seriously. Think about it. Will the bloggers get out of their jammies and attend news conferences, go to war zones, cover city halls and legislatures, investigate corporate/government corruption etc.? Even your adored Limbaughs and company don't get off their butts to do original journalism. All they do is react to what the old media do. So again, I ask you, what will be left when the old media die? Darkness. We ain't perfect but we do the job, for better or worse. Thanks for writing.

-----Original Message----- From:---------------

Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 5:32 AM To: azerbis@thestar.ca Subject: (no subject)

The pajamahadeens are digging their own graves

You too can be replaced....

459 posted on 12/03/2004 4:58:57 PM PST by .45MAN ("God bless America and George W. Bush")
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To: .45MAN

She really thinks a lot of herself, eh?


460 posted on 12/03/2004 5:18:32 PM PST by dansangel (Thank you Veterans past and present!)
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