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To: Check_Your_Premises

Did you know that they were the first and most numerous victims of Stalin's holocaust, the "Harvest of Sorrow,"
i.e., the man-made famine of the early 1930s? It would be a historical tragedy if they were kept in the Russian orbit, especially by a stolen election.


54 posted on 11/24/2004 10:39:50 AM PST by California Patriot
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To: California Patriot
Yeah, unlike the left, I didn't miss the Ukrainian famine. So you are saying this is important to us because of the historic oppression of this region by the Russians. Ok, I feel bad about that. When I said I was didn't know anything about the Ukraine, I was referring to modern times. Does it have any strategic significance to us that you are aware of?

Does it do anything to enhance Russian power to our detriment? Does this signal some new era of Russian expansionism? Is Putin a threat to Europe?

72 posted on 11/24/2004 10:51:58 AM PST by Check_Your_Premises (We have to win the war at home before we can win ANY war abroad!)
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To: California Patriot

No, the Russians were the most numerous of international Communism's victims starting in 1917. Also the COmmunist-produced famine in the early 1930's killed people in the breadbasket regions in BOTH Ukraine and Russia. The Communists crushed ALL opposition, against all economic sense.


75 posted on 11/24/2004 10:53:56 AM PST by wildandcrazyrussian
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To: California Patriot

How were they the most numerous? Of the Kulaks killed 9 million from Russia, 5 million from Ukraine and 2 million from Belaruss. How were they the earliest, when the Bolshaviks held central and western Russia, Ukraine was under the rule of an anarchist who constantly switched sides. Yes, oxymoron, an anarchist who ruled a nation and had an organized army.


111 posted on 11/24/2004 11:12:29 AM PST by jb6 (Truth = Christ)
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To: California Patriot

Amen....


407 posted on 11/24/2004 9:26:26 PM PST by joesnuffy ("The merit of our Constitution was, not that it promotes democracy, but checks it." Horatio Seymour)
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