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BREAKING: Powell: U.S. 'Cannot Accept Result' of Ukraine Election
Fox News ^ | November 24, 2004

Posted on 11/24/2004 10:09:53 AM PST by West Coast Conservative

Powell: U.S. 'Cannot Accept Result' of Ukraine Election

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: coldwar2; powell; ukraine
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To: DoughtyOne

We'll just see what the Ukrainians "cannot do." I'm not ready to give up.


381 posted on 11/24/2004 4:57:46 PM PST by California Patriot
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To: bayourod

What would that prove?


382 posted on 11/24/2004 4:58:57 PM PST by California Patriot
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To: MarMema
Do you know the history of Keston?

Do you men that they ran out of money and had to close the news service?
383 posted on 11/24/2004 5:00:26 PM PST by AdmSmith
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To: jb6

"Oh and Ukraine is not part of Russia"

So isn't France a part of Poland, or Spain a part of Greece.

That's irrelevant. What's relevant, however, is that we are all Christian brothers and sisters. As Christians, Ukraine and Russia, as well as Poland, Italy, France etc. are a single unit whose enemy is intent on seeing hundreds of millions of us killed -- just as they did in WW II and the Russian Revolution. Know your anti-Christ and defeat it!


384 posted on 11/24/2004 5:02:10 PM PST by Baraonda (“Similia similibus curantur” (like cures like).)
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To: notigar
Maybe so, but the vast majority of the world lives without freedom, and we aren't inserting ourselves into the middle of every banana republic's affairs. Thank God. Yet.

Bill Clinton and George Soros have worked tirelessly to destroy the former Eastern bloc, and that makes me instinctively want to support Russia, aside from my Orthodox Christianity.

Ukraine is not a monolithic state. A priest of mine who was Ukrainian scoffed at the idea that the Ukraine was somehow a separate people or that Ukrainian was a separate language. He liked to compare Russia and Ukraine to Yankee and Confederate America -- different accents, a little different culture, but essentially the same people. Lots of people in Ukraine feel very tied in with Russia culturally. Many of the differences frankly are religious -- the Orthodox tend to lean toward Russia, and those in union with Rome tend to be more independence-minded.

What I object to is America inserting itself into the internal affairs of any country that it doesn't intimately understand, shouting slogans of "freedom and democracy." My religion sensitizes me to this when we are talking about countries that I know something about. The Serbian situation was Exhibit A of America inserting herself into something she didn't understand. Any Orthodox Christian knew that America was siding with the Muslims against the Christians, and strengthening Islam's toe-hold in Europe. It was our knowledge of the situation of our fellow-Orthodox that helped us to understand this.

I don't pretend to know as much about this situation, but my gut-level is that this is another good one to stay out of.

President Bush's first reaction to Putin was to like and basically want to ally himself with him. He should trust that instinct -- Bush tends to have pretty good instincts.

385 posted on 11/24/2004 5:12:49 PM PST by Agrarian
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To: California Patriot
I'm not trying to prove anything, I'm just asking what this is all about. What are the issues. Who are the players. What impact will it have on us.

But a lot of my questions have already been answered by others on this thread.

389 posted on 11/24/2004 6:18:38 PM PST by bayourod (Don't Mess With West Texas Oil Field Trash)
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To: seamole

I should have said "All Christianity" because that is what I meant. Thanks for the amen.


390 posted on 11/24/2004 6:23:11 PM PST by MarMema
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To: MarMema
Let's see, once I was accused of being a Serbian militia in disguise posting here. I had to actually ping some freepers here that have met me in order to convince this freeper that I was not Serbian militia.

LOL, I remember having to attest to your American-ness to the nuts here.

Orthodox share a kind of intimacy and loyalty that seems to arouse suspicion in the world.

I think the word is Sobornost sister.


391 posted on 11/24/2004 6:29:39 PM PST by katnip (Defeating John Kerry is like giving Vietnam Veterans the Homecoming they never had)
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To: West Coast Conservative
I understand they had DNC advisers dressed as Ukrainian poll advisers.
393 posted on 11/24/2004 6:59:06 PM PST by -=Wing_0_Walker=-
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To: MarMema

Turn the letters, Vanna, spell it.


394 posted on 11/24/2004 7:04:15 PM PST by txhurl
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To: txflake

Hey, anybody else getting as afraid of orthodoxy? especially when it interferes with free elections? anyone?


395 posted on 11/24/2004 7:06:49 PM PST by notigar
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To: notigar

Not me. Have you tried meds to sleep at night? We're the most passive group on the entire planet.


396 posted on 11/24/2004 7:09:46 PM PST by MarMema
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To: MarMema

Ever heard of a little outfit called the Quakers? Or maybe the Jainists. They sweep before they walk. So as not to kill. You more pacifist than that?


397 posted on 11/24/2004 7:27:39 PM PST by notigar
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To: RightWhale
We are annoyed that other countries are concerned with our election, citizens of the world etc., why is our take on another country's election okay?

I guess if you equate our form of government with Putin's Russia then your question is reasonable.

I don't...

398 posted on 11/24/2004 7:30:22 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: jb6
Those exit polls were only held in Kiev and the western oblasts.

Source.

399 posted on 11/24/2004 7:32:06 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: RightWhale
Should we interfere, or is it in the Russian sphere?

Alaska is close enough to be in the Russian sphere. BTW, what is a sphere?

400 posted on 11/24/2004 7:34:10 PM PST by FreeReign
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