Posted on 11/24/2004 10:09:53 AM PST by West Coast Conservative
We'll just see what the Ukrainians "cannot do." I'm not ready to give up.
What would that prove?
"Oh and Ukraine is not part of Russia"
So isn't France a part of Poland, or Spain a part of Greece.
That's irrelevant. What's relevant, however, is that we are all Christian brothers and sisters. As Christians, Ukraine and Russia, as well as Poland, Italy, France etc. are a single unit whose enemy is intent on seeing hundreds of millions of us killed -- just as they did in WW II and the Russian Revolution. Know your anti-Christ and defeat it!
Bill Clinton and George Soros have worked tirelessly to destroy the former Eastern bloc, and that makes me instinctively want to support Russia, aside from my Orthodox Christianity.
Ukraine is not a monolithic state. A priest of mine who was Ukrainian scoffed at the idea that the Ukraine was somehow a separate people or that Ukrainian was a separate language. He liked to compare Russia and Ukraine to Yankee and Confederate America -- different accents, a little different culture, but essentially the same people. Lots of people in Ukraine feel very tied in with Russia culturally. Many of the differences frankly are religious -- the Orthodox tend to lean toward Russia, and those in union with Rome tend to be more independence-minded.
What I object to is America inserting itself into the internal affairs of any country that it doesn't intimately understand, shouting slogans of "freedom and democracy." My religion sensitizes me to this when we are talking about countries that I know something about. The Serbian situation was Exhibit A of America inserting herself into something she didn't understand. Any Orthodox Christian knew that America was siding with the Muslims against the Christians, and strengthening Islam's toe-hold in Europe. It was our knowledge of the situation of our fellow-Orthodox that helped us to understand this.
I don't pretend to know as much about this situation, but my gut-level is that this is another good one to stay out of.
President Bush's first reaction to Putin was to like and basically want to ally himself with him. He should trust that instinct -- Bush tends to have pretty good instincts.
But a lot of my questions have already been answered by others on this thread.
I should have said "All Christianity" because that is what I meant. Thanks for the amen.
LOL, I remember having to attest to your American-ness to the nuts here.
Orthodox share a kind of intimacy and loyalty that seems to arouse suspicion in the world.
I think the word is Sobornost sister.
Turn the letters, Vanna, spell it.
Hey, anybody else getting as afraid of orthodoxy? especially when it interferes with free elections? anyone?
Not me. Have you tried meds to sleep at night? We're the most passive group on the entire planet.
Ever heard of a little outfit called the Quakers? Or maybe the Jainists. They sweep before they walk. So as not to kill. You more pacifist than that?
I guess if you equate our form of government with Putin's Russia then your question is reasonable.
I don't...
Source.
Alaska is close enough to be in the Russian sphere. BTW, what is a sphere?
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