Posted on 11/24/2004 9:35:29 AM PST by bikepacker67
Well, now. That explains everything!
{Al-Shazli: You claim that as a rule, the man is of better judgment?
Elias: Allah claims this.}
No, a man WROTE that Allah claims it.
TROP
Strikes again, and again, and again.............
The "rule of thumb" works for me.
The following are excerpts from a discussion of women's rights and wife-beating in Islam:
Sheik Yusouf Al-Badri, member of the Egyptian Supreme Council for Islamic Affairs:How can you claim that I don't honor my wife, while she cooks my food, bakes my bread, kneads my dough, washes my clothes and my children's? A woman nowadays tells her husband, "You must cook with me, bake with me, and knead with me."
Moderator: What is wrong with that?
Participant: She's his partner, his partner.
Sheik Yusouf Al-Badri: Listen to this true story, Mrs. Nagwa. A guy went to ask for a girl's hand in marriage. He asked her father what she specializes in, and the father answered, "She has a degree in sociology, physiology, philology, psychology, and anthropology." He gave him a list. The guy asked if she knew how to run a household, and the father said: "No, there are servants." The young man said: "I need her to know cookology, doughology, loundryology, that's what I want. I don't want her to tell me, "I'm an anthropologist."
I use beatings [on my children], but symbolically. The same goes for women: "Admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them." Even the manner of beatings was determined. If I said it was barbarism, it would mean that the All-Knowing Creator of the World doesn't know. He's barbaric.
Moderator: No, we dont say that. We are talking about beatings
Sheik Yusouf Al-Badri: It's the principle. There are beatings in the Koran and in the Sunna
Moderator: But Mrs. Farida spoke about "barbaric beatings" or "barbaric violence."
Sheik Yusouf Al-Badri: No, she objected to beatings altogether.
Moderator: No, no, no, she did say so. She said, "Barbaric violence."
Sheik Yusouf Al-Badri This means we're allowed to beat.
Moderator: Sir, you support beatings, of course.
Sheik Yusouf Al-Badri: No, she said she was against beatings.
Participant: I oppose beatings, any beatings, barbaric or other
Moderator:What does this mean?
Sheik Yusouf Al-Badri : It means that we refer to the Koran as a book with mistakes that need to be fixed
such a peaceful religion.
Any man who ever lays a hand on me will live to regret the day he set eyes on me. So, there will be no argument or discussion here as far as I am concerned.
James says we should open a dialoque with folks like Bin Laden so that things like 9/11 won't happen. In fact, in The World According to James, if we had been more sensitive to Islam, 9/11 would not have happened at all.
I told James that the Islamists would not be happy until every woman in America was in a burka. I'll send this on to James and add that the women will also receive beatings so that they may better serve their men.
I wonder how James' hero Susan Sarandon will like her burka and her beatings?
A_R
There are enough well-travelled Muslims in the world who have had the opportunity to learn from other cultures. Yet, they continue to practice this "religion of peace". They want it to stay the way it is.
Oh charming. . . I'm not sure what there is to debate, if you feel the need to hit a woman as therapy I think you need to seek a TOTALLY different kind of therapy.
Mix with copious amounts of killing, genocide, discrimination and a cult brainwashed to support murder by it's latter day leaders, and you have Modern Day Islam!
{ have this friend. I'll call him James, because that is his name. James loves Michael Moore. He hates GWB.
James says we should open a dialoque with folks like Bin Laden so that things like 9/11 won't happen.}
Um...wasn't Moore one of the ones who started the rumor that Bush met with Bin Laden in New York, therefore Bush knew about 9/11 ahead of time? I know I heard that somewhere.
I understand it as you do. God created Eve to be a helpmate or partner' not to be some subservient wench at his beck and call.
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gotta ditto that.
I was asking my rhetorical question to Pitiricus, who maintained on another thread that authoritative rabbis had opined that Islamic and Jewish morality were 90% identical.
Clearly there is no comparison between Judaism and Islam.
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