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To: Carling
The absolute, scientific proof is simply not there for evolutionists, no matter what they say.

You're right, there is no absolute proof of Evolution. Just a vast preponderance of evidence.

As for Gods hand, there is no scientific evidence one way or another. Science can neither prove, or disprove God. You have to believe in Him on faith.

I personally think that God is powerful enough to have created Evolution itself. A grand invention.

60 posted on 11/24/2004 7:07:56 AM PST by narby
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To: narby
As for Gods hand, there is no scientific evidence one way or another. Science can neither prove, or disprove God. You have to believe in Him on faith.

The purpose of science is to understand how things work without God's influence, or from a dfferent point of view, to understand how God has set nature in motion. When something is not understood, one can take the position that its due to God's influence, or that someday science will explain it.

God and science are, by definition, exclusive of each other. This does not make science "sinful". God commanded us to take dominion over the earth, which would include understanding how earth works.

A scientist does not have to be an atheist nor does a Christian have to reject science, as long as they understand the purpose of science.

I personally think that God is powerful enough to have created Evolution itself. A grand invention.

You seem to understand the purpose of science.

104 posted on 11/24/2004 1:09:53 PM PST by kidd
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To: narby
". . . I personally think that God is powerful enough to have created Evolution itself. A grand invention."

And you're not the only one narby. Have you ever heard of the great Jesuit theologian and anthropologist Teilhard de Chardin (1881-1955)? As a professional anthropologist de Chardin achieved fame with the discovery of Peking Man, one of the Homo Habilis specimens, and as a Jesuit theologian he wrote extensively about what he referred to as "Noogenesis" or the creation of a psychic sphere, which he named the "Noosphere" and described it as existing "above the Biosphere" or above the plane of material existence. De Chardin saw evolution as part of God's plan, not anything that ran contrary to it, because it enabled primitive man to cross the "threshhold of reflection" and to create something entirely spiritual or, as he put it, "a new planetary envelope formed entirely by human thought." For de Chardin, this process continued and he believed that the ongoing mutations in humankind were designed to make possible man's acceptance of "SomeOne at the summit" of existence, i.e. God, and that the target of evolution was teleologically-oriented towards this "Omega point" when the realization of the divine being would complete the process of evolution. And he saw all of this as compatible with the Bible, Christianity (as a Jesuit he was an ordained Catholic priest), and their teachings.

Here's a link for you if you haven't heard of him:

Teilhard de Chardin

So to anyone who wants to claim that the Theory of Evolution negates God, the Bible, and Christianity the truth is it may only negate your interpretation of God, the Bible, and Chrisitanity. There have been noted religious thinkers in the Christian tradition who have disagreed. And to insist that others who disagree with you are bound to wickedness and damnation is to deny their religiosity and the legitimacy of their form of worship.
107 posted on 11/24/2004 1:48:58 PM PST by StJacques
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