Posted on 11/23/2004 6:41:57 PM PST by Incorrigible
Well Bambi Barri Bronston is apparently a card carrying GIM member. (see my tagline re GIM).
http://search.yahoo.com/bin/search?p=Barri%20Bronston%20Gay
Yes, in some form. Or all forms.
Check out the age differences between rich men and their trophy wives.
These people who support gays adopting children are the scum of the earth.
Well, if you support Gays having children in their home, then you are part of the problem.
(A possible Scenario for people who think like you) Say hey to your gays friends for me, when you see them this this Sunday at your Apostate Church led by your lesbian minister.
Almost makes you want to head for the hills,
Both of you are right re children being commodities in our "high tech reproduction" culture. This is why I'm also against things like artificial insem, surrogacy, etc. for straight couples too. But Jorge, what I was hearing in your replies was something along of the lines of "we have to make it fair for gays". Compounding the first problem (children considered trophies) by adding a second (gay adoptions) is sicker than sick, IMO.
I pray that God will save and change these two before the child is inevitably molested (by them or their friends). If they refuse to be saved and changed I pray that God kills them before the child's life is ruined and he is dragged into hell with them.
May God have mercy on their souls
Riiiiight.
Well, I know alot of people like you don't like hearing this, but the world doesn't revolve around California and the "lifestyles" it accepts.
Yes, but there are apples and oranges. There are good gay parents and there are bad straight parents. There are fewer than what, 5% gay people in the world? And most of them do not want or have children? So the few that do are not a huge problem for the rest of us.
I agree, a mother and a father, married, is the best structure of parenting for a child. Best STRUCTURE. Yet an awful lot depends on the individuals involved and their parenting approach, as well.
...but comparing the few high-achievers in this "trial promotion" period is not an appropriate way to evaluate a marriage policy for the entire nation.
There are less high achievers (% wise) among us in the hetero community. Just look at huge segments of us who don't marry and even have serial "baby daddies."
You and I agree. We want all kids growing up in a nice, loving, conservative family with a mommy and a daddy, married. To each other. LOL.
Here are the apples and the oranges. Apple: two gay men, loving and caring for their child, though exposing him to the idea that homosexuality is normal. Orange: a poor mom, two kids, each with a different baby daddy who doesn't show up much, a grandma to watch them while Mommy plays around and parties. Whoooops! Pregnant again! And after all that cocaine, too!
I think the tolerance Americans show for gays today is a credit to American goodness of spirit. Americans today show much more tolerance for differences among people than most other places, notably Europe (as liberal as their newspapers sound, get out of the big cities there and people are quite xenophobic).
Tolerance for individuals who are different is a good thing. I even see remarkable tolerance for muslim men here, even when Americans have good reason to not be quite so tolerant to that group.
It just isn't right to force people to violate their conscience with the same Constitution that guarantees their right to that conscience in the first place.
But we already are forced to face it. What about abortion, which clearly to anyone with the slightest common sense is murder? Accepting gays parenting is FAR less odious than having to accept that the current "enlightened" thinking is that every child should have been wanted by the biological female parent before birth or should be killed.
I too am dismayed they made a film like Kinsey, when his "research" has been thoroughly discredited and the movement started at that time took sex from being private to being far too public, and devalued human life while glorifying the cheapest parts of sex. Not to mention the shakeup of the traditional human family.
You make a wonderful analogy with the slapdash way the homosexual lobby has forced its way in to Reconstruction. I think this is the way new social trends will keep hitting us: fast and furious, like our technology. Hopefully, we can start to develop conservative hides and try to sift the good from the horrible from each new wave. There are good things about accepting homosexuals the way whites learned to accept blacks and other racially different people.
A last anecdote: I have a little buddy (a little brother of my son's friend) who is 4. He is crazy about Barbies and dolls and carries a little hairbrush around with him to brush his Barbie's long tresses. His mother wears a cross around her neck so she must be Christian. This sweet, smart little boy knows NOTHING of sex, yet he is as effeminate as you can be. He cannot help the way he is. He is a delight as a human being, even though he will spend hours finding just the right dress and hairdo for his Barbie. (I have three young sons and none of them ever spent more than a minute with a Barbie and then only to try and force her into a toy car.) You cannot convince me that he is any less a child of G-d than any other.
I find gay adoption is sick as well.
And I'm not so sure I was advocating being "fair" to gays as much as I was pointing out that society has become so tolerant of degenerate heterosexual behavior, we've lost the moral high ground in this debate.
poor poor kid what choice did he have being raised by two homosexual men every child needs a mother and father its not right and not fair to deny a child its simple natural right to have both a mother and a father.
it doesnt take an einstein to work out that you need a man and a woman to make and raise a child it is totaly and pshyically impossible for two men to make a child and for two women to make a child.
i have at many times in the past struggled with homosexual desires and tendencies and have engaged in homosexul sex in the past but thanks to the good lord god my eyes have been opened and now i am turning away from it and repenting it.
i look back and i think how sick and disgusted and repulsed i am by it infact the more and more i think of homosexuality now the more and more repulsed i feel about it.
its an absoloute perversion and it is totally disgusting and unatural and a abomination it is also just as bad as other sexual perversions such as incest bestiality peodaphillia rape bondage sadomachoism group sex necrophillia etc.
to bring a child up into such a unatural perverted immoral enviroment is going to cause alot of harm to that child.
homosexuals can try and promote their lifestyle all they like as being natural but what they have to realize is that there are always going to be those who will be against their lifestyle and which will always refuse to except their lifestyle.
not only that homosexuality is wrong in so many ways not to mention the fact that its a misuse of sex its unhealthy unreproductive and its a mental illness and disorder and its also a lifestyle based on selfishness and self love.
its ovious that the only reasons why gay men and lesbians want to have children is so they can try and perceive other people into thinking that their lifestyle is normal and they also chose to have children out of utter plain selfishness they see children as being nothing more than excessories pets toys and pieces of property.
they have no reason or justification for having children if god intented for them to have children he would have made so men could impregnate other men and women could impregnate other women but thats not the case and gay men and lesbians need to bring a third person into helping them have a child wether it be two lesbians using a man to donate his sperm or two gay men paying a woman to rent out her womb.
what the gay community needs to understand is that no matter what they do and no matter how they have children you still need a man and a woman to make a child its as simple as that but no of course the gay community doesnt want to admitt it because they no soooooooo much better and they are just sooooooo perfect the gay community are nothing more than a bunch of biggots and facists which are trying to get the whole world to excpet their lifestyle.
what the gay community is also doing is trying to change the order of society and nature in everyway wether it be through relationships marriage the family unit etc.
they also have moved past wanting excpetance and equality they now want to have dominance and complete control over society and the world.
homosexuals are probally the most selfish people on the planet sure alot of them might be loving and caring but the majority of them are just plain selfish and they only live for themsleves and they only care about getting what they want and they dont care about anyone else particualrly when it comes to having a child they dont care about the child they are not at all worried about the harm that they are going to cause to that child all they simply care about is getting everything they want.
all those people who hurt and harm children particualrly these homosexuals who delibretely bring children into their unatural lifestyle are going to have to one day stand before god and be held accountable for it and unless they have repented they will not go to heaven and they will instead face eternity in hell.
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