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To: Dan Evans
"Maybe Ukraine should be thinking more in terms of independence from both Moscow and the EU."

Nice thinkin but it is not going in that direction. Soros and the EU are on the move as in the MOVEON group.... away from USA and Russia and toward the new "improved" socialist/commie/fascist EU.

Look for all the assets of Ukraine to be taken/absorbed/bought for pennies by the EU members ... just like they played their wee game in the Balkans. Getting ALL those old ethnic enemies to fight like crazed beasts. AMAZING!

The Clintons who are Soros butt- kissers and EU internationists... why they went right along. Bombing and playing the wee game.

Oh, well... all the people who are "high" on the glories of the EU must be pleased. Oh, and all those people who are so ANTI-RUSSIAN... well, they are really pro-Eu and anti-USA.

And, bless their little hearts....they probably did not even know it.

Alas... the game is afoot, eh, Watson?

127 posted on 11/23/2004 9:31:21 PM PST by Lion in Winter (I ain't no pussy cat... don't mess with me... ya hear! GRRRRRRrrr)
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To: Lion in Winter

The Ukraine will be reintegrated with Russia using free trade agreements and regional economic integration.

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RUSSIA PUSHES TRADE FOR CIS UNITY

As Moscow moves to assert the Kremlin’s authority in response to the Beslan crisis, it is simultaneously pushing for stronger economic and political ties with the former Soviet republics. The Russian ruble is the instrument of choice in this campaign, but some skeptics argue that the price tag for economic unity might come too steep for government coffers.

The Kremlin has long promoted the ruble as the tie that should bind the five members of the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS) that make up the so-called Eurasian Economic Commonwealth (EEC) -- Russia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan. Earlier predictions that the ruble would assume this role by 2004 have fallen flat, but on September 21, Russian Prime Minister Mikhail Fradkov repeated the call for the ruble to become the engine for the group’s economic integration.

"We must accelerate the creation of a general payment system within the EEC, using the Russian ruble as the central means of payment," Fradkov told a meeting of the EEC prime ministers in Moscow, RIA-Novosti reported.

In a written statement to a September 22 EEC business forum in Moscow, President Vladimir Putin emphasized that line, telling attendees that EEC "integration processes . . . create opportunities for multilateral projects and initiatives." According to Fradkov, trade between Russia and its EEC partners stood at $13.7 billion for the first half of 2004 -- a 37 percent increase from the same period last year.

With 40 percent of any EEC vote held by Russia – which also covers 40 percent of the organization’s budget – the Kremlin’s proposal could be seen as a fait accompli. However, previous efforts to link Moscow to other former Soviet republics have produced mixed results. In June 2004, Aleksandr Lukashenko, president of Belarus, Russia’s closest ally, took the three-year-old block to task for inefficiency in realizing its stated goals.

But if the EEC fails to meet its free trade goals, Russia can fall back on another block of leading post-Soviet economies, the Common Economic Space (CES). Last year, Russia, Kazakhstan, Ukraine and Belarus pledged to revive the economic union that collapsed with the breakup of the Soviet Union in 1991. The Kremlin, however, has dismissed criticism that the group is intended as an attempt to revive the Soviet Union. The CES would unite a combined population of about 217 million people, while the EES has a total population of roughly 230 million people.

On September 15, the presidents of Russia, Ukraine, Belarus and Kazakhstan met in Astana, Kazakhstan, to discuss prospects for greater coordination of economic policies and trade among the four CES member states with a view to the creation of a free trade zone by July 1, 2005.


http://www.eurasianet.org/departments/business/articles/eav092404.shtml


139 posted on 11/23/2004 10:17:38 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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