Posted on 11/23/2004 5:07:24 PM PST by kupia_kummi
A peaceful handover of power has reportedly been agreed in the Ukraine after protesters clashed with anti-riot police outside the president's headquarters.
Tensions in the capital Kiev reached breaking point as tens of thousands of demonstrators surrounded the HQ.
They had been called on to march by opposition leader Viktor Yushchenko.
He and his supporters believed the presidential election, which took place at the weekend, was rigged.
According to the poll results, Kremlin-backed Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovych won the presidency.
But after calls from outgoing president Leonid Kuchma for talks between the two sides, Mr Yanukovych stepped aside.
Mr Yushchenko will now become president, it has been reported.
The turmoil in the Ukraine followed a day of claims and counter-claims about the disputed presidential election, which has been condemned internationally as not being "free or fair".
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ROFL!!! I wonder how you sleep at night. Are there Russians coming after you in your dreams too?
Have you any links for their martyrs?
Well since you know the judgement day results, perhaps you can let me know mine in advance as well?
Well I don't see a way.. But the founding fathers did provide a way...
The 2nd amendment was given specifically to make revolution LEGAL...
They provided a way to restart this republic and because they provided a way, they also knew this thing would run down like a clock.. else why did they provide the 2nd amendment.. FOR HUNTING?.. LoL..
They were genius's.. They knew the malefactors would eventially find a way to undo all they set up.. The only question is are their progeny up to doing it.. A well layed Coup D'Etat would be cool too but prolly not happening.. Nah! the only way to ensure freedom is by sacrifice of blood sometimes much blood.. always been that way.. Most Americans can deal with that as long as its somebody ELSES blood... always been that way too.. Success has many fathers, failure is an orphan.. American men are generally cowards. At least the ones Not in Iraq...
What to do ?... I'm old and revolution is a young mans game.. I just hope "they" will leave me alone for a few years to fish, hunt, shrimp and crab.. After that.. the youngsters better get busy cause the price to freedom in America goes up EVERY SINGLE DAY.. and it will not be bloodless.. (see previous axiom)..
Your ignorant of the United States Constitution and the U.S. system of governance.. it is set up SO that no particular MOB is in control.. far different than ANY democracy(Mob rule).. I refuse to educate you on this.. WHo knows who you are..
The U.S. Constitution does not preclude any other partys from participating,, the two party system is held in place by the two parties.. not the Constitution.. both partys have the system set up to make it HARD for another party to engage... if not impossible.. its not even easy to challenge an incumbant let alone start a new party.. Some good things about that but most are bad..
Whoa hose..where did that come from?
Are you sure you meant it for me?
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No other news agency is reporting this.
Any other facts to back-up the story.
Well, as you said above..
I suppose I deducted you meant in the U.S the partys were mobs..
If not sorry.. If so then, as I said.. But then the democrats always were a mob. Democrats are FOR democracy.. It is true that the republicans are trying to ape the democrats somewhat.. and in that they are a mob too.. Since this republic is long dead and what we now have is a democracy.. in that.. I suppose the political process in the U.S. is now Mob rule.. maybe you were correct..
I never spoke to anything except the Ukraine and the premise that a mob was running it before and after the elections no matter who won so what difference did it make..or something like that.
Maybe catch you another time.
Ok...
I get pissy faced about democracy.. LoL..
I'm not sure what you mean by that, but I know someone personally whose uncles were and grandparents were killed, and whose father was left to starve as a young boy (but survived) simply because they were Christian. The son of that young boy is now a Baptist minister not far from Kiev.
Does that count?
The power of prayer in countries under oppression is more powerful than our human imaginations can comprehend.
If prayer is behind this 'revolution'.....as it looks like it may be......then expect success.
As to the resemblance of the so-called Christian to a so-called Christian right here in America.......well, the one close to home gives me the creeps too.
I was just interested in reading more.
The pastor (whose grandparents were killed) wanted to study music, and was not permitted because he was a Christian. The Church of Christ survived 70 years of torture and oppression and came out stronger for it.
It was a humbling experience for us flabby American Christians who haven't got a clue about what persecution for the sake of Christ is like. The Ukrainian Christians are wonderful, strong people.
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