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Hunting Massacre Suspect's Kin Stunned
FoxNews ^ | November 23, 2004 | Associated Press

Posted on 11/23/2004 5:20:30 AM PST by standing united

HAYWARD, Wis. — Thick glass prevented Chai Soua Vang (search) from any contact with family members during a brief visit Monday at Sawyer County Jail. They spoke via telephone, mixing English with the native language of Hmong immigrants from Laos (search).

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: crime; deerstand; hmong; hunting; lao; laos; murder; shooting; vang; wihunters
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Environmentalist do not believe in the concept of "private property" ownership in America, and they will tell you that, if you ask them. We personally own 500 acres of land and every year we catch someone trespassing, and when we ask them why they are trespassing on our private property, they always respond that the "chamber of commerce" told us that we could go here to find mushrooms! We have also discovered that maps of the area were being handed out with our private property marked on the map as "public property," and open to the public. The environmentalist not only do not believe in the ownership of "private property" but, they enter our private property under the guise of mapping wetlands, or monitoring fresh water.

We have called law-enforcement, and each occassion, the law never enforces the trespass laws, and allows the environmentalist to walk with a warning, or a laugh. I cannot remember a single time when our local Prosecutor has prosecuted a trespassor on private property in our County. This is very dangerous, and I am afraid will lead to another massacre just as has happended in Wisc.

This malicious misrepresentation of our private property may have led to a Hmong (Chai Soua Vang) entering private property with his intent on hunting what he considers "public property" and when he was told that the blind he was using was on private property, he may have fiqured that they were a bunch of lying white people and opened fire on them. Since when does anyone hunt with a 20 round mag in their rifle anyway? I know here in Michigan it is against the law to have more than 5 rounds in your rifle during deer season. It has been reported that Vang had a hunting licence for Minn., but not for Wisc. I have also noticed that the news media is down playing the shooting as the murderer being a "fellow" hunter and they are not reporting that Vang was NOT part of the hunting party that he murdered, but a trespasser.

Mr. Vang will not be charged with a "hate" crime because shooting whites is alright, so long as whites do not shoot a minority. No matter how you look at this massacre, there is a lot more to this story than the news is willing to report, that is for sure.

1 posted on 11/23/2004 5:20:30 AM PST by standing united
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To: standing united

Do we know for sure if he was really even a hunter, or could he have planned this serial killing, much as the gunman on the UT clock tower? I just wonder if he was really just trying to make a statement against guns, and make hunters look bad by doing this. Or he could just be crazy. We have owned guns forever and we have never had a problem with our guns or our kids getting into our guns. Our kids are grown now.


2 posted on 11/23/2004 5:22:45 AM PST by buffyt (~It is not a choice ~ It is a CHILD!~)
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To: standing united; Darksheare; meowmeow; Constitution Day; 4mycountry; Poohbah; Grampa Dave; ...

I am stuned - They may need to have Customes Agents from tiajunna to investigate with thier beeber devices


3 posted on 11/23/2004 5:22:48 AM PST by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? Freepmail Visualops or myself for details)
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To: standing united
That was my point exactly....

"No matter how you look at this massacre, there is a lot more to this story than the news is willing to report, that is for sure."

You said it much better than I did.

4 posted on 11/23/2004 5:24:01 AM PST by buffyt (~It is not a choice ~ It is a CHILD!~)
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To: al baby

Stuned Beeber alert!


5 posted on 11/23/2004 5:25:01 AM PST by buffyt (~It is not a choice ~ It is a CHILD!~)
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To: buffyt

Just my opinion but I believe he was there to hunt. He had the out-of-state hunting permit by some reports.


6 posted on 11/23/2004 5:25:45 AM PST by Ladysmith (November 2, 2004: Taking America BACK!!!)
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To: standing united

They had a serial killer in Florida some years back who shot hunters. Never caught them. Wonder where this dude was then?


7 posted on 11/23/2004 5:26:16 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Kevin Sites is a coward and a terrorist sympathizer.)
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To: standing united

Why is the family surprised? He already had a domestic violence complaint filed against him...


8 posted on 11/23/2004 5:27:17 AM PST by Pharmboy (Listen...you can still hear the old media sobbing.)
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To: Ladysmith

bump


9 posted on 11/23/2004 5:31:04 AM PST by Iowa Granny
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To: Ladysmith

This guy was not there to hunt deer. He was there to go on a shooting spree.

People who go to hunt deer do not kill six people. The whole hunting scene just makes it more of a sport, as opposed to the post office or MacDonalds shooting spree.


10 posted on 11/23/2004 5:31:29 AM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: standing united

Eventually the lawyers will turn this around that due to the language barrier and because the other hunters had guns, he got scared and acted in self-defense. The fact that they kept coming at him, no doubt with their guns, he just kept shooting.


11 posted on 11/23/2004 5:31:42 AM PST by thecanuck
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To: Ladysmith

He and his family will be playing the race card. Count on it.


12 posted on 11/23/2004 5:32:39 AM PST by OldFriend (PRAY FOR MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH)
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To: thecanuck

By the way I don't buy this, but I expect nothing less from lawyer scum looking to pick up a high profile case. They might even go the OJ defense root and claim the slain hunters were throwing racial threats at him and dig in their pasts for any off-color joke or comment they ever made.


13 posted on 11/23/2004 5:34:32 AM PST by thecanuck
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To: Iowa Granny

Hey you, good morning!


14 posted on 11/23/2004 5:35:41 AM PST by Ladysmith (November 2, 2004: Taking America BACK!!!)
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To: thecanuck

Won't wash. I am from this area and am following it pretty closely. He chased them down. The bodies were scattered up to 200 yards apart.


15 posted on 11/23/2004 5:40:16 AM PST by mrjeff
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To: OldFriend; JudyinCanada
Yes, I'm sure the racecard will be played. I've also read in different posts the problems folks have had with Hmongs not respecting hunting laws and private property rights.

One bit of news that needs more information is who was he with and what happened to them? A few reports were he may have been with a group of 3 or 4 hunters himself.

16 posted on 11/23/2004 5:42:13 AM PST by Ladysmith (November 2, 2004: Taking America BACK!!!)
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To: buffyt

I am with you, I too believe that this whole massacre was staged. Nothing makes any sense in what is being reported.


17 posted on 11/23/2004 5:42:53 AM PST by standing united (The second amendment does not stand for the right to hunt, but to over throw a corrupt Gov.)
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To: Ladysmith

Seemingly a group of hunters escorted him out of the woods when he encountered them and said he was lost.


18 posted on 11/23/2004 5:44:29 AM PST by OldFriend (PRAY FOR MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH)
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To: thecanuck

Of the 8 hunters that were shot, only 1 had a weapon.


19 posted on 11/23/2004 5:44:54 AM PST by standing united (The second amendment does not stand for the right to hunt, but to over throw a corrupt Gov.)
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To: standing united; mrjeff

Hope you are both right. Gretta Van Sistern is probably eyeballing this one for at least a year long run. Hopefully its open and shut.


20 posted on 11/23/2004 5:46:57 AM PST by thecanuck
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