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Today Show: Delusional Artest Fails to Apologize, Says "It's Time to Move On"
The Today Show | governsleast governsbest

Posted on 11/23/2004 4:59:48 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

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To: Buttaboom; governsleastgovernsbest
You gotta be kiddin' me...

And GLGB says he didn't notice...

121 posted on 11/23/2004 6:35:25 AM PST by gridlock (The Republican Party is a stupid party no more...)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest; gridlock

First off, its obvious the Union rep is a black guy, though you didn't mention his skin color. How do I know he is black? Because it would cause a firestorm if a white guy said Artest was "not very articulate." Whites can't say stuff like that.

The networks have gone out of their way, it seems, to not mention Artest's childhood. I'd bet a weeks pay he was in a fatherless home while growing up.

And finally, you are both right that he wanted to create controversy with the interview. If he says the right things, apoplgizes, and acts as if he is concerned for fans and the NBA, fewer of those he targets for CD sales will be reached. HE MUST THUG-OUT AT ALL COSTS.

Thanks for the ping/post glgb. Well done again.


122 posted on 11/23/2004 6:35:31 AM PST by subterfuge (Hey Dems, don't blame gays, it was your candidate!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
This thug said he had a 12year old son. If Artest is 25 years old, he started that at either 12 or 13. How old was the girl he screwed? My, what a paragon of virtue Artest is.

Artest needs jail time. so do some of the fans. They aren't angels in this either. In all the game between the Celtics and Lakers, as far as I know, there was never a time team members went into the stands to vent their frustrations. I'm talking about the Bird/Johnson era.

This incident has been compared to the Clemson/USC incident. There is no comparison. The football altercation took place solely on the field and limited to the players. This behavior needs to be stopped now before it really gets out of hand. Otherwise, someone will get killed. It could come to that.
123 posted on 11/23/2004 6:36:29 AM PST by NCC-1701 (ISLAM IS A CULT, PURE AND SIMPLE!!!!! IT MUST BE ERADICATED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH.)
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To: Miss Marple

While I don't blame all of this on Artest, because the fans deserve a good share of the credit for this mess, he's had a history of problems with his temper, including multiple suspensions. He may be the nicest guy in the world off the court, but that doesn't change the fact he went WAY over the line Friday night. And for that, I blame the NBA for illicitly supporting this bad boy culture throughout the league.


124 posted on 11/23/2004 6:37:20 AM PST by ABG(anybody but Gore) ("Oh no, not Hans Brix!")
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To: MinuteGal

Bring back normal basketball is right! Remember what it was like in high school? Little guys (relatively) in little shorts playing their hearts out. No tattoos. No bleached hair. At the end of the game you'd have a sore throat from cheering for every basket.


125 posted on 11/23/2004 6:38:14 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: rabidralph

Thanks RR. I agree with Laura, though I wouldn't be too tough on Hunter. His heart seems to be in the right place, and he's in a tough position because he is essentially the paid employee of the players. His paid role is to defend them. But he clearly seemed to be signalling that he knows there's a serious problem.


126 posted on 11/23/2004 6:38:25 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: rabidralph

WHat an embarassment to a sport. Basketball is an art form, not jungleball. This is turning into a gladiator sport made of prima donas. IMHO it started with Spreewell...who should have gone to jail and been suspended from the sport.
I know several fine, mature, articulate gentlemen who also play at the highest levels in basketball. It's a real shame to see the NBA take the whole sport down the tube.


127 posted on 11/23/2004 6:38:28 AM PST by CThomasFan (GWB 04...living proof that God is still bessing America)
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)

I agree. The active promotion of thug culture has spoiled pro basketball, and it is also seeping into pro football. It is something the NBA should be forced to confront and correct.


128 posted on 11/23/2004 6:42:21 AM PST by Miss Marple
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To: PresidentFelon

Oh please come off of that insulting trash! Ron Artest is a violent punk with the intelligence of a rock. How in the heck did he EVER get into St. Johns?? Were you proud of your idol when he laid on that table grabbing his crotch and calling an opposing player a 'b1tch'? If you are proud of that then you are part of the problem. You make excuses so that you can go on enjoying what you want. What about all the kids in the arena that night? Are you expecting them to accept that this is the way things are and they should just move on? No, pal, not happening this time. Everyone saw exactly what Ron Artest IS really about. He was caught on tape being who he was.


129 posted on 11/23/2004 6:43:11 AM PST by truthseeker2
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Did we have this violence 30 years ago before being invaded by these super athletes. No we didn't. The same goes for football and baseball. Its time to get real about the problem that no one wants to talk about isn't it?


130 posted on 11/23/2004 6:43:40 AM PST by hgro
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To: Time is now
...right wing Terry O'Reilly...

The liberal media at work again...

131 posted on 11/23/2004 6:44:45 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: San Jacinto
It's pretty much to the point that NBA Basketball has reached freak show status along with the Roller Derby and professional wrestling

Don't put professional wrestling in the same category as the NBA.

WWF matches have to be tightly choreographed so that nobody gets seriously injured. The wrestlers must NOT be subject to uncontrolled actual (as opposed to staged) anger, lest they actually injure somebody. WWF wrestlers are high-class entertainer/athletes.

I doubt any NBA player would be considered stable enough for WWF

132 posted on 11/23/2004 6:49:44 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (We are going to fight until hell freezes over and then we are going to fight on the ice)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Artest didn't use street slang. Each word was, in and of itself, intelligible. It's just that what he had to say was deeply detached from reality

I wonder how much Prozac he consumed?

133 posted on 11/23/2004 6:50:49 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (We are going to fight until hell freezes over and then we are going to fight on the ice)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Katie's last question was good: "Do you think this incident was caused by the stolen Presidential election this year? Wasn't Bush responsible for this outrage?"


134 posted on 11/23/2004 6:51:25 AM PST by searchandrecovery (No clever ideas in over: 7 days.)
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To: MikeinIraq

I salute you and your sacrifices to protect me and my family and if sports are your anchor right now that is fine.

May God protect you and all our fighting forces.


135 posted on 11/23/2004 6:58:00 AM PST by Dad2Angels
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Thanks for your report governs.

While I am not a basketball fan (I dread March madness because I live in the heart of ACC country), I am pretty appalled at what I saw on the Today show this morning.

If the NBA truly wanted to "send a message", they should have banned Artest for life. Just like US Figure Skating did with Tonya Harding. It was more important to US Figure Skating to stop that behavior than it was to allow Harding to continue to skate who, at the time was, an
exceptionally talented skater. Yeah, I know skating and basketball aren't comparable, but how their sanctioning organizations deal with bad behavior are worlds apart.

It is a shame that people like Artest are going to be idolized by many people while people like Cal Ripken don't get nearly the recognition they deserve.


136 posted on 11/23/2004 6:59:18 AM PST by iceskater (No nation or state ever taxed itself into prosperity.)
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To: CThomasFan
I think we can go back to that knucklehead in Philadelphia, Allen Iverson, who, as a yoot, was involved in a brawl in a bowling alley, got off the hook and got a scholarship to Georgetown. We've come full circle from brawling with fans in a bowling alley to brawling with them in the arena.

The past few minutes, Laura has been comparing Artest to the other professional victim Bill Clinton, especially his ranting threats to Peter Jennings last week.

137 posted on 11/23/2004 6:59:21 AM PST by rabidralph (Arm Tibet)
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To: gridlock

You guys will hate to admit it, but there is more traditional team play in five minutes of a WNBA game than in the whole NBA season.


138 posted on 11/23/2004 7:02:09 AM PST by Uncle Fud
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To: Uncle Fud

Hey, I'll admit it. I was trying to be helpful to MinuteGal with that WNBA comment.


139 posted on 11/23/2004 7:04:26 AM PST by gridlock (The Republican Party is a stupid party no more...)
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To: truthseeker2

Yeah, until I read that post I had no idea that Ron is really just a misunderstood, insecure guy.....


140 posted on 11/23/2004 7:11:54 AM PST by clintonh8r (Get Out The Gloat!!)
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