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To: KOZ.

Huh? What does that have to do with what I said? The vote is the vote. Just because you and the NYT don't like the result doesn't make it fraud.

If you cry fraud every time the election doesn't come out as you like it, then you are basically claiming that democracy doesn't work. So why have it? Your viewpoint is self-defeating.

Unfortunately, the ends justifies the means does not work when your goal is to establish democracy. You can't say, "well, our candidate lost in this election, but he's the most democratic candidate, and the vote wasn't fair, so we should throw out the results."

If you really want to get from A to B, then you do your best to make sure the vote is fair before it happens, and then you back the result, no matter what it is. There is no other alternative at that point. Declaring the vote a fraud is itself conceding defeat.

Of course, if it really was a fraud, then you've been defeated anyway, but there is no way to undo it until the next election.


8 posted on 11/23/2004 5:03:48 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

when the russians get in and fraud the election it is a fraud. whether you like it or not. if both the EU, the US, nato and everyone else on the planet says there were huge amounts of fraud. you cant get from A to B if there is fraud.

you are right, that fraud should be prevented beforehand. but when most say there was fraud i will side with them. not with you and putin and the communist politicians.


10 posted on 11/23/2004 5:05:05 PM PST by KOZ. (Reducing liberalism from a threat to a mere nuisance. Just like prostitution.)
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