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Life begins at conception—NOT birth.
Birth is one day in the life of a person who is already nine months old.

[ken21]

i must admit i like this 2 murders from the peterson case.

as soon as this sinks in, you're going to hear a lotta screaming from the radical feminists!

[buffyt]

It is not a CHOICE,
It is a CHILD!

[ken5050]

You know, every time I hear Kerry in the campaign say that the Dems want ot be the "science party"..which statement was an implicit jibe against people of faith, I was comforted by the fact that SCIENCE and TECHNOLOGY, like the 3D ultrsound, is actually reaffirming what we believe.

[Conservative til I die]

The article covers why NARAL and NOW would be against such laws, simply because it blows their arguments about "choice". But it's also why liberal Dems in Congress oppose all kinds of reasonable legislation that protects the unborn. If a fetus is a child at nine months, then why not eight? And if eight, why not seven and so forth.

[Dashing Dasher]

IMHO...
If the Republican Party would take the Pro-Life vs. Pro-Choice question out of the party platform, GW Bush would have won by an enormous margin.

The majority of people I know who vote DemoRat do so because they are Pro-Choice.

Yes, I know what you are going to say - but that's the truth as well.

PS... wouldn't it be nice if
A) People (both Male and Female) took responsibility for birth control?
B) everyone valued life enough that there was no need for abortions?

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[Ed Current]

AN UNBORN CHILD IS A HUMAN BEING REGARDLESS IF THE CHILD IS WANTED OR NOT, OR WANTED DEAD OR NOT AND REGARDLESS WHO KILLS THE CHILD, A PHYSICIAN OR AN IRATE HUSBAND.

State Unborn Victim Laws a summary of the laws of the 30 states that recognize the unlawful killing of an unborn child as homicide in at least some circumstances. The federal Unborn Victims of Violence Act, enacted April 1, 2004, covers unborn victims of federal and military crimes.

stemcellresearch.org - Founding Statement

• State: Homicide laws of all 50 states protect human life and the dignity of every human being--especially the vulnerable; laws of many states already specifically protect vulnerable embryonic human beings outside the womb; most prohibit destructive human embryo and human fetal research.
• National: The present Congressional ban on federally-funded human embryo research explicitly excludes "research in which a human embryo or embryos are destroyed, discarded, or knowingly subjected to risk of injury or death"; existing laws requiring separation between the death of an unborn child in abortion and research objectives using the unborn child's tissues preclude the destruction of human embryos as a means of achieving research objectives.
• International: Documents such as the Nuremburg Code, the World Medical Association's Declaration of Helsinki, and the United Nations Declaration of Human Rights reject the use of human beings in experimental research without their informed consent and permit research on incompetent subjects only if there is a legal surrogate, minimal risk, and therapeutic benefit for the human subject.

CBHD: On Human Embryos and Stem Cell Research

It may strike some as surprising that legal protection of embryonic human beings can co-exist with the U.S. Supreme Court's 1973 legalization of abortion.²⁹ However, the Supreme Court has never prevented the government from protecting prenatal life outside the abortion context,³⁰ and public sentiment also seems even more opposed to government funding of embryo experimentation than to the funding of abortion.³¹ The laws of a number of states-including Louisiana, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and Utah-specifically protect embryonic human beings outside the womb. Most of these provisions prohibit experiments on embryos outside the womb.³²

In FT January 2003: Constitutional Persons, Robert H. Bork stated,"Science and rational demonstration prove that a human exists from the moment of conception." This objective fact refutes any wishful subjective speculation stating otherwise!

[Tarpaulin]

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[Dog Gone]

It was going pretty good with logic until it asserted that the Declaration of Indepence created some legal rights. It didn't.

At most, it is evidence of the mindset of the Founding Fathers, but none of its statements carry any import in terms of law or legal significance.

[Jay Howard Smith]

Before I formed you in the womb I knew you,
and before you were born I consecrated you;

Jer 1:5

[scottybk]

How sad is it that the Supreme Court has "discovered" via the penumbras of the Constitution, a "right" to kill unborn children, engage in homosexual sodomy, discrimate in a law school/college admissions based on race of the applicant- yet cannot read the simple, straightforward 2d Amendment: "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" -14 WORDS!- as rendering per se unconstitutional such drivel as the Assault Weapons ban, Brady Bill, D.C. & NYC handgun laws, etc.
O'Connor, Ginsberg, Souter, and Stevens aren't fit to carry Alexander Hamilton's judicial jock-strap. I've seen more rational decisions made by Ouija Boards than these 4 hacks. Please, Bush, replace these 4 clowns ASAP.
And as for you, Mr. Arlen "Q-Tip Head" Specter, please join your spineless loser pal Jumpin' Jimmy Jeffords on the D side of the aisle, you ungrateful Keystone State disgrace.

[Reactionary]

"They were told by the Supreme Court that since no one knows when human life begins, that killing a child in the womb would be perfectly legal right up to term."

You have to admire the absolute stupidity of the pro-abortion Leftist scum on this point. After all, if a fetus isn't alive, there's not much reason to abort it.

[narses]

Ping for life!

[Polybius]

This is what happens when justices on the Supreme Court put their ideology before science and common sense. You wind up with a legal mess. The unborn child in all situations MUST be declared a human being, and not just a human being when killed by an irate husband...........

In Roe v. Wade, the Supreme Court has not declared when a human being is a human being.

Instead, the Supreme Court decided, for all practical purposes, to grant pregnant American women the ancient Roman right of Patria Potestas over their own unborn children.

A Roman father had the legal right under Patria Potesta to put his own child, of whatever age, to death. If someone other than the father did so, the killer was guilty of murder.

In Roman times, a father exercising his power of life and death over his own children under Patria Potestas acknowledged and understood perfectly well that he was taking a human life as was his right under Roman law. The modern American woman, on the other hand, would prefer to pretend otherwise. It makes her Inner Child feel better about it.

[Taiwan Bocks]

I love that, "Birth is one day in the life of someone who is already nine months old."

I think the Dred Scott case is prophetically relevant after the Scott Peterson trial conviction.

[mvpel]

In trying to figure this thing out, the only conclusion that I can arrive at, is that the unborn child is not a human being if the mother wants her child dead, BUT if third party kills the child without permission from the mother, then and only then is the child a human being.

The good doctor is too hung up on the term "human being" - it's lawful to kill a fully grown human being under certain circumstances - a fact which anyone who carries a defensive firearm is well aware.

The question of whether a fetus is a "human being" is only tangentially related to the legal issues regarding how and when it is killed.

[Buddy B]

.
RE: Your text in BLUE COLOR.

"Life begins at conception—NOT birth.
Birth is one day in the life of a person who is already nine months old."

  [already nine months old.]    Sometimes less than nine months and sometimes more than nine months.

...But I understand your point!
And I believe it to be true...Life begins at conception.
.

[auboy]

BTTT

[Mr. Silverback]

Well put.

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