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U.S. CONGRESS REJECTS NEW NUCLEAR WEAPONS FUNDS
YAHOOOO VIA Reuters ^ | 11/22/04

Posted on 11/22/2004 1:10:45 PM PST by areafiftyone

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Congress denied the Bush administration funds to study a new generation of nuclear weapons, omitting the money from a huge mop-up spending bill it passed over the weekend, lawmakers said on Monday. The final $388 billion spending bill did not include the $36.6 million President Bush (news - web sites) sought to study so-called bunker-busting nuclear weapons that would be used to destroy underground facilities as well as smaller nuclear arms with half the power of the bomb dropped on Hiroshima.

The White House said it had no plans to build such weapons, but wanted to keep the door open to their development to deal with emerging threats.

Democrats said just considering the weapons takes nuclear warfare out of the realm of the unthinkable and encourages adversaries of the United States to develop such weapons.

Pressed by Rep. David Hobson (news, bio, voting record), an Ohio Republican who chairs the House of Representatives subcommittee that oversees nuclear weapons spending, Senate and House negotiators backed the House position to omit the money from the huge spending package that Congress passed over the weekend.

"If we are to convince other countries to forego nuclear weapons, we cannot be preparing to build an entire new generation of nuclear weapons here in the U.S.," said Rep. Ed Markey, a Massachusetts Democrat.

Markey said this "should send a strong signal to the Bush administration to drop this weapon from next year's budget request."


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: congress; federalspending; miltech; mininukes; nuclearweapons; proliferation

1 posted on 11/22/2004 1:10:46 PM PST by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone

Bush ain't going to drop it. He's going to force feed the new nukes to the Congress, mark my words.


2 posted on 11/22/2004 1:13:21 PM PST by pissant
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To: pissant
Someone needs to tell th Dems that the Chinese are not so cautious about development. In is the height of irresponsibility to have halted R & D on Nukes for 15 years. We should instead start on a strategic build up. That alone might deter China and Russia (and the EU) from any monkey business.

I hope bush does not stop this. The argument, BTW way is spurious for we have had tactical nukes for decades. The Dems just cannot not let this go. Note who they hold us "equal" to other countries.

3 posted on 11/22/2004 1:19:19 PM PST by CasearianDaoist
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Is Hobson a RINO?

We need to be able to hold enemies underground at risk.


4 posted on 11/22/2004 1:20:34 PM PST by sullivan-fan
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To: CasearianDaoist

The Dems want America to lose all strategic advantages and have us just be a compliant member of the UN, equal with China, NoKo, Syria, and every other piece of crap country the world over.


5 posted on 11/22/2004 1:22:02 PM PST by pissant
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To: areafiftyone

After reading about the weapons all the other nations on earth are working on and sending around to their friends - it is odd that our Congress did not see the need for the U.S. to have something in the works - even if it was only money put aside for future wants -

Considering all the weapons from France, Russia, China, etc. - found in Iraq - I can't see how Congress would even think what we did would lead to an arms race - The other nations are already on a "race" in case they hadn't noticed -

I don't know why the Repubs. are still letting the Socialist Democrats weaken us on defense - It's a shame - considering power is the only thing some of these terrorist seem to understand -

just my thoughts -


6 posted on 11/22/2004 1:25:55 PM PST by Pastnowfuturealpha
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To: pissant

Absolutely. Why is it that we never hear the GOP come out and say this openly. This is what the Clinton administration was all about.


7 posted on 11/22/2004 1:35:44 PM PST by CasearianDaoist
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To: areafiftyone

Those against these weapons are moronic imbeciles who simply don't comprehend the type of world that we inhabit. Iran either has nukes, or damned well will have them soon, and the mad mullahs will put them on rockets. I can't quite say that it isn't rocket science (it actually is), but if the US and Russia could put nukes on missiles in the 1950's, Iran can do so fairly easily now. Extending the range is a rather simple matter, just add a stage or two, or make a rocket that holds more fuel. Time, and not too much of it at that, will provide them with solutions...and then they'll have nukes that they can drop on our cities. They don't need to be accurate...minute of city is good enough.

We simply cannot live in a world where the mad mullahs have nukes, let alone nukes on rockets. 9/11 will look like a few kids having a fight in the sandbox compared to what could easily occur. As such, we WILL be going after them. But they learned well from Saddam's mistake, and have their facilities widely disbursed and buried deeply in reinforced concrete pillboxes. The only way to dig those things out, short of a small nuke that can burrow underground and destroy it with pinpoint accuracy and, more importantly for the rest of us, little radioactive fallout, is to drop a BIG nuke on the surface - thereby causing LOTS more direct casualties and LOTS more fallout that will affect everyone on the planet (esp. children, who are the most vulnerable to radioactivity).

No thank you Dems and RINOS, but I'll take the bunker-busting nukes. Better to have them and not need them, than to need them and not have them - and therefor have to resort to really big nukes or a full-scale invasion.


8 posted on 11/22/2004 2:04:04 PM PST by Ancesthntr
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To: pissant
He's going to force feed the new nukes to the Congress, mark my words.

From which end?

9 posted on 11/22/2004 2:16:45 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: El Gato

hopefully the hind end.


10 posted on 11/22/2004 2:18:29 PM PST by pissant
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To: CasearianDaoist

Tell the Dems?

Let's see - the Republicans OWN congress - so I think we should look a little closer at the supposed Republicans who have chosen to go twice this week against GW.

Did someone forget to tell those folks who won the election by the biggest margin (popular vote) in history?


11 posted on 11/22/2004 2:20:05 PM PST by TheBattman (Islam - the cult of Satan)
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Don't worry. When the mullahs hit US with nuclear warheads, they will probably hit the East /West Coast rather than the fly-over states, especially the big cities like NYC, LA, SF, Washington, etc. As a result, there the population of dems in this country will dramatically reduce, and this will help guarantee Republicans success in the elections.


12 posted on 11/22/2004 2:20:59 PM PST by anonposter
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To: areafiftyone
"If we are to convince other countries to forego nuclear weapons, we cannot be preparing to build an entire new generation of nuclear weapons here in the U.S.," said Rep. Ed Markey, a Massachusetts Democrat.

Sure we can...by making nuclear weapons that will garauntee that theirs can be killed.

13 posted on 11/22/2004 2:24:33 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: areafiftyone
"...The U.S. Congress denied the Bush administration funds to study a new generation of nuclear weapons, omitting the money from a huge mop-up spending bill it passed over the weekend, lawmakers said on Monday. The final $388 billion spending bill did not include the $36.6 million President Bush (news - web sites) sought to study so-called bunker-busting nuclear weapons that would be used to destroy underground facilities as well as smaller nuclear arms with half the power of the bomb dropped on Hiroshima..."

IT LOOKS LIKE WE WILL BE FORCED TO USE EXISTING NUCLEAR STOCK TO GET THOSE RAT-BA*TARDS. What's the smallest we carry? 13 KT?

14 posted on 11/22/2004 2:27:05 PM PST by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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