[b4its2late]

FYI, the libs can't give it up....

[anniegetyourgun]

Also here.

[EggsAckley]

THIS thread debunks it.

[cvq3842]

Right.

I remember reading that Kerry's victories in the "Blue states" tended to be narrower than Bush's victories in the "Red states."

Maybe we should recount the Blue states too - Bush might have won all 50 states!

:)

[RonF]

Tell you what -- despite any bias that mey be inherent in this author or these investigators, I'll say right now that I don't trust any e-voting alternatives, especially those that don't have a paper trail tracking all the votes. I'm way too familiar with security and networking issues to trust any device out there right now. It's not at all unbelievable to me that any error isn't possible, even if you discount any deliberate effort to defraud.

[the Real fifi]

Berkeley bunkum. http://americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=4038

[Lazamataz]

A study by researchers at the University of California, Berkeley, has found that irregularities associated with electronic voting in this month's election may have awarded as much as 260,000 votes to President Bush in three Florida counties.

(Batman-announcer voice) What's THIS? A super-leftist group of professors in an uber-leftist university, nestled in a leftist state.... has problems with the results of the election in which the left was crushed?????

Stay tuned to this Bat-channel for more Bat-groaning, more Bat-whining, and more Bat-gnashing-of-teeth!

[randog]

"Compared to counties with paper ballots, counties with electronic voting machines were significantly more likely to show increases in support for President Bush between 2000 (election) and 2004," the study said.

And his conclusion is.....? Does this mean Bushies are spoofing the electronic ballots or the dems are spoofing the paper ballots?

[Rodney King]

The study took into account variables such as number of voters, median income, Hispanic population, change in voter turnout between the 2000 election and 2004, support for Bush in the 2000 election and support for Robert Dole, the Republican candidate in the 1996 election.

In other words, Bush voters turned out in greater than expected numbers in 2004. No wait, that can't be it, it must be the electronic voting machines!

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

"Compared to counties with paper ballots, counties with electronic voting machines were significantly more likely to show increases in support for President Bush between 2000 (election) and 2004," the study said.

. . . suggesting that the measurement in the electronic system in 2004 overstated the Bush vote or that the measurement in the paper ballot system in 2000 understated the Bush vote.

Given that the issue arises in a county in which the Election Officials are Democrats . . .

[HappyCapitalist]

Lies, Damn Lies, Statistics, and Berkley Statistics

[MEG33]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1286018/posts
....Once I correct for this shift, the "electronic voting machine effect" disappears.In response to this, I wrote a paper [html, pdf] that shows that the model used by the Berkley team is flawed. Specifically, the model fails to account for demographic shifts between 2000 and 2004. In the four years, on average (across counties), the number of registered Republicans increased by 29% whereas the number of registered Democrats increased only by 5%. In three counties (Baker, Gilchrist, and Liberty), the number of registered Republicans increased by more than 90%. Once I correct for this shift, the "electronic voting machine effect" disappears. My conclusion is that there is no statistical evidence of a relationship between the use of electronic voting machines and the change in the percentage of votes cast for Bush." .....

(excerpt)

[Hi Heels]

BIZERKLY says? oh puleeze..... Not like they don't have an agenda.

[MNnice]

We use the optical scanning machines here. You mark the bubble for each office and take it over and scan the form into the machine. The machine records the vote electronically and the form you filled out is the "paper trail." It's cheap and effective. I don't understand why everyone doesn't use it.

[hang 'em]

So Dubya carried the electron vote.

[gridlock]

You know, when the Donks start obsessing about how 2004 was stolen from them, just like Florida 2000, we should all just sit back and stroke our beards (stoke 'em if you got 'em) and say "how interesting"...

Let them pursue their fantasies of voting irregularities. It will keep them distracted while they should be doing the hard work necessary to build a national party. Four more years of whining about how they wuz robbed should pretty much move them out of contention for the White House for the next twenty years...

[doc30]

The study took into account variables such as number of voters, median income, Hispanic population, change in voter turnout between the 2000 election and 2004, support for Bush in the 2000 election and support for Robert Dole, the Republican candidate in the 1996 election.

As a research scientist, I use several multivariate models in my work. What I can honestly say about this Berkely work is that the model is only as good as the variables you select to construct the model. If you don't identify EVERY influence on the data you provide for the model construction, you cannot have a model that is highly robust and it will fail when unidentified factors influence the result. There are many more factors involved in the decision of who to vote for and this model largley looks at past voting trends.

"We don't think that this is a case where you really can model behavior of voters in the voting booth," Cohen said. "There are all kinds of factors that cause voters to vote a particular way " the economy, the war on terrorism, and in that geographic area (heavily Jewish), Israel and U.S. relations with Israel."

This Cohen fellow understands the deficiencies in modeling human behaviour. One other possibility is that the paper system before was corrupted by Dem voter fraud and now the correct voting pattern has been established. Wasn't the previous Broward county elections supervisor an incompetent Dem hack that the state had to replace?

[Smedley]

Who needs actual elections. From now on political offices will be determined by Berkeley studies