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To: Righter-than-Rush

Niiiice. Throw out the Catholics with the Nazis and McVeigh. Just so you know, it is Catholic doctrine that revelation is complete in the scriptures. (For instance, while 2 Maccabees is the plainest exposition of offering atonement, Catholics also point to 2 Peter, Revelations and the gospels.) At the time of Christ, there was only one canon that included the Mosaic books, the prophets and the writings. That canon was the Septuagint. When a Hebrew canon was formalized DECADES AFTER CHRIST, the deuterocanonicals were excluded because they depicted an imminent Messiah and the resurrection of the body. IOW, they were conclusively Christian. It was these books that Luther excluded, falsely believing that the Masoretic texts were pre-Christian.

Even so, no Catholic doctrine is based on the deuterocanonical books. In many instances, they are the plainest exposition of certain doctrines, such as sacrificial expiation, but that doctrine is found in 2 Peter, Revelations and the gospels, as well.

You can sincerely state that Catholics misinterpret the bible. That is your opinion, and it is a valid one. If you state that the Catholics add to the bible, you are a liar.


213 posted on 11/24/2004 9:58:07 AM PST by dangus
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To: dangus; Righter-than-Rush

Whoops! Last minute botch and cut and paste rendered this illegible. Let me try again:

Niiiice. Throw out the Catholics with the Nazis and McVeigh. Just so you know, it is Catholic doctrine that revelation is complete in the scriptures.

As for the "added" books: At the time of Christ, there was only one canon that included the Mosaic books, the prophets and the writings. That canon was the Septuagint. (The Sadducees can be said to have had a formal canon, but it included only the books of Moses.) When a Hebrew canon was formalized DECADES AFTER CHRIST, the deuterocanonicals were excluded because they depicted an imminent Messiah and the resurrection of the body. IOW, they were conclusively Christian. It was these books that Luther excluded, falsely believing that the Masoretic texts were pre-Christian.

Even so, no Catholic doctrine is based on the deuterocanonical books. In many instances, they are the plainest exposition of certain doctrines, such as sacrificial expiation, but that doctrine is found in 2 Peter, Revelations and the gospels, as well.

You can sincerely state that Catholics misinterpret the bible. That is your opinion, and it is a valid one. If you state that the Catholics add to the bible, you are a liar.


214 posted on 11/24/2004 10:39:54 AM PST by dangus
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