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To: stefanbc

Read the koran.

Get a clue. And calling someone ignorant does nothing for you cause.

I can sit and post thousands of articles about islamic violence against every single religious denomination that is not islam. And some against other muslims.

Islam has no redeeming qualities. None. And there is no such thing as moderate islam. Your view of islam is what's going to get more people killed in the future.

Islam is about one thing. And it isn't peace.


22 posted on 11/22/2004 9:42:02 AM PST by Stopislamnow (This tagline a victim of humorless busybodies.)
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To: Stopislamnow

Since you have already made up your mind we have nothing to discuss. Have a whole lot of fun with you plan to kill a billion Muslims, sir


27 posted on 11/22/2004 9:56:20 AM PST by stefanbc (Have a nice left-wing suicide : hate to be ya)
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To: Stopislamnow; stefanbc

There are indeed moderate Muslims, the problem is that there are three kinds. Those sufficiently acculturated to living peacefully in minority status in non-Muslim lands, for example Russian (not Chechen) Muslims who denounced 9/11 immediately, those sufficiently secularized to be as alienated from Islamic tradition as a druidism-dabbling Episcopalian priestess is from Christian tradition, and those for whom moderation is a veil, a tactic to advance the cause of Islam as traditionally understood.

The first are relevant only to the societies where they are found--mostly in Asia. The second are precious few and not very helpful. Lest it be thought that my description of the third kind of moderate Muslim is too cynical, I refer you to the history of the sufi in India. They seemed the very soul of moderation--adopted some Hindu spiritual practices, were peaceful to their neighbors, well-spoken, etc. But when push came to shove, their friendly moderation was revealed to be a ruse to 'spy out the land' and they fought with the other Muslim to kill or convert their former 'friends'.

In the Lebanese civil war, it was the secularized Sunnis who were the most vicious, showing none of Islam's traditional deference to holy places of other 'peoples of the book', destroying and desacrating Christian churches. (Traditionally, Muslims whitewash over icons rather than destroying them, and make captured churches and synagogues into mosques rather than destreying them.)

Do not forget that lying to non-Muslims to advance the cause of Islam is considered a virtue in Islam.


96 posted on 11/22/2004 10:17:10 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know what this was)
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