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Cameraman Details Marine's Role in Mosque Shooting (fair and balanced, HA)
NY Times ^ | November 22, 2004 | JAMES GLANZ and EDWARD WONG

Posted on 11/21/2004 9:24:04 PM PST by Former Military Chick

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I really do try my best to be fair but frankly *&^& $%$* really angers me!
1 posted on 11/21/2004 9:24:04 PM PST by Former Military Chick
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To: Former Military Chick

unarmed and wounded Iraqi prisoner

This terrorist was NOT a prisoner!


2 posted on 11/21/2004 9:27:51 PM PST by Just Lori (Before you can win the peace, you have to win the WAR!!!)
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We need to make sure these two are never embedded either. Of course, that's probably not even probable. These are the barfly reporters.


3 posted on 11/21/2004 9:28:47 PM PST by McGavin999 (George Soros just learned a very expensive lesson-America can't be bought.)
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To: Former Military Chick

He wants to have it both ways.


4 posted on 11/21/2004 9:29:07 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Liberalism is proof that intelligent people can ignore as much as the ignorant.)
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To: Former Military Chick

We have to go around putting things into context.

Here is another incident, where the terrorist was indeed playing dead, so that was not an unreasonable assumption on the part of the Marine:

Marines shoot insurgent who was 'playing dead'
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1285529/posts

The US military says marines in Fallujah have shot and killed an insurgent who engaged them as he was faking being dead, a week after footage of a marine killing an apparently unarmed and wounded Iraqi caused a stir in the region.

"Marines from the 1st Marine Division shot and killed an insurgent who while faking dead opened fire on the marines who were conducting a security and clearing patrol through the streets," a military statement said.


5 posted on 11/21/2004 9:29:10 PM PST by FairOpinion (Thank you Swifties, POWs & Vets. We couldn't have done it without you.)
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"Mr. Sites was so surprised that the prisoners he had seen there the day before had been attacked again that he informed a Marine lieutenant of the fact before the final shooting - the one he captured on tape - took place."

So what does he mean by that?


6 posted on 11/21/2004 9:30:04 PM PST by Cvengr (;^))
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To: Former Military Chick

Site himself admits he knew about the existence of these terrorists there from the day before. Why didn't he warn the Marines????

"Inside, Mr. Sites said he was was surprised to see the wounded men from the battle the day before, now shot again."

Ollie North wrote a good article, pointing out these facts.

War crimes?
Oliver North

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/ollienorth/on20041119.shtml


the correspondent who videotaped the shooting, doesn't mention the medical treatment provided to the injured enemy combatants, but he does note that four of the combatants were some of those who had been left behind from the firefight on Friday. If the NBC reporter knew that from being there the day before, why didn't he tell this new group of Marines before they rushed into the room?

None of that is included in the tape, which is now being used to raise Islamic ire at the "American invader." Why? And why did it take more than a day to learn that the Marine seen shooting on the videotape had been wounded in the face the day before if the correspondent knew that when he filed the videotape? Why didn't the original story include the fact that a Marine in the same unit had been killed 24 hours earlier while searching the booby-trapped dead body of a terrorist?

Within hours of the videotaped incident in the mosque, another Marine was killed and five others wounded by a booby-trapped body they found in a house after a gunfight. Why was this not made part of the original story? Even Amnesty International, no friend to the American armed forces, has reported that the Iraqi terrorists have illegally used white flags to lure coalition forces into ambushes. Yet this, too, is absent in the original story.


7 posted on 11/21/2004 9:30:36 PM PST by FairOpinion (Thank you Swifties, POWs & Vets. We couldn't have done it without you.)
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And more incidents:

Fallujah attacks expose new risks

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1285557/posts

FALLUJAH, IRAQ - The white flag may be an international symbol of surrender, but in Fallujah it has become another tool of guerrilla war.

US marines on a foot patrol this weekend paid little attention to a man walking along the road and holding a white flag - a common sight as the conflict dies down and civilians pop up to scavenge for food and water.

But this time, US officers say, as the marines came by, the man dipped into an alley, returned with an AK-47 assault rifle, and sprayed the marines with bullets. Two Americans died, and others were wounded.

In a separate incident, marines were lured into an well-coordinated ambush by men with white flags who appeared to signal that they needed help. When marines got close, gunmen began firing from buildings high above.


8 posted on 11/21/2004 9:31:12 PM PST by FairOpinion (Thank you Swifties, POWs & Vets. We couldn't have done it without you.)
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War is hell!

9 posted on 11/21/2004 9:34:56 PM PST by GalaxieFiveHundred
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Sites is Anti Marine Anti War Anti America

Sites had knowledge about the Iraqis he did not share with the Marines

He simply set up and waited to see if he could get pics of dead US Marines or pics of US Marines killing terrorists...(that he would lie about in his reports calling them wounded...freedom fighters or some other anti us military euphemism)

This SOB enjoys the protection of Marines and then stabs them in the back..as he is 100% for the terrorists and wants the USA to loose the war on terror...and he also wants to see the men and women of the US military killed...so that he can use this to show the folks back home and rouse them to abandon the war effort and to no longer support Pres Bush

Sikes is a snake in the grass and should imo be prosecuted for anti American activities
10 posted on 11/21/2004 9:37:05 PM PST by joesnuffy ("The merit of our Constitution was, not that it promotes democracy, but checks it." Horatio Seymour)
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To: Former Military Chick

Mister Sites should watch his six.


11 posted on 11/21/2004 9:38:14 PM PST by Hunterb
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I strongly recommend that everyone read Kevin Sites own comments rather than depending on the NY Times. It can be read at:http://www.kevinsites.net/
12 posted on 11/21/2004 9:40:54 PM PST by airedale ( XZ)
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"shocked to see myself painted as some kind of antiwar activist."

Who cares. How do you think the Marine feels?

13 posted on 11/21/2004 9:48:40 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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One thing we need to remember is that some of those who were released from prison in Cuba have been found fighting our troops in Iraq. Either these people are going to be bandaged up and in prison for life because their is no rehabilitation for them or they can be sent to claim their 80 virgins. I think they want to claim their 80 virgins.


14 posted on 11/21/2004 9:49:39 PM PST by taxesareforever
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...moments later approached the cameraman with seemingly remorseful words - "I didn't know, sir, I didn't know" ...

A Marine addresses a freelance camera man as sir?

Does Sites' account seem fishy to anyone else?

15 posted on 11/21/2004 9:51:16 PM PST by Bronzewound (Somethings not right here.)
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How long do we all need to sift fly poop out of ground pepper? Sites is an proven Anti-war activist sent by his America -hating employers (NBC) to aid the terrorist cause by "exposing" our soldiers inhumanity and reporting same in anti-war propaganda.
Let's boot him and them and all the rest of the "reality TV" types out of the battle zones.


16 posted on 11/21/2004 9:55:24 PM PST by CBart95
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From Sites' website:

The Marine then abruptly turns away and strides away, right past the fifth wounded insurgent lying next to a column. He is very much alive and peering from his blanket. He is moving, even trying to talk. But for some reason, it seems he did not pose the same apparent "danger" as the other man -- though he may have been more capable of hiding a weapon or explosive beneath his blanket.

He did not pose the same apparent "danger" as the other men because he had his hands up in the international sign of surrender. The others did not.

17 posted on 11/21/2004 10:03:28 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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Mr. Sites wrote. "There are no sudden movements, no reaching or lunging."

I'd like to know how he can be so sure. From the angle of the camera, the body of the man who is shot is blocked by the body in front of him. You can't see his hands on the video so how can Sites, looking through the camera viewfinder, attest that there was absolutely no movement?

18 posted on 11/21/2004 10:05:05 PM PST by saquin
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From Site's web site:

The wounded man then tries again to talk to me in Arabic. He says, "Yesterday I was shot... please... yesterday I was shot over there -- and talked to all of you on camera -- I am one of the guys from this whole group. I gave you information.

OK, Mr. Sites so just where is THIS tape? He clearly says he talked to you and you filmed him. Where is it? What are you hiding?

19 posted on 11/21/2004 10:06:26 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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he understood the ugliness and complexity of battle

He doesn't know shit from shineola......phucm !

20 posted on 11/21/2004 10:09:54 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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