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The truth about marijuana.
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Posted on 11/21/2004 9:15:23 PM PST by april15Bendovr

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To: tickmeister
It assists in dividing, isolating and dumbing down America. I am in favor of legalizing pot but only if the people that smoke it will sign a waiver that I wont have to take care of their dumb ass when they fry their synapse and receptors with tax dollars. I already do but not by choice.
21 posted on 11/21/2004 9:45:32 PM PST by april15Bendovr
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To: jocon307
Can we spell hyporcrasy? because I can't!

Yes, 'we' probably can! Apparently, you can't! (Uh, oh. Are you kinda buzzed right now?)

22 posted on 11/21/2004 9:46:27 PM PST by Libloather (RED REGIONS ROCK!)
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To: Libloather

"What is your point on pot - again?"

In a nutshell, I would treat it like alchohol, but no bars I don't think. Oh maybe you could have bars, but not to start. Oh heck,no bars, you can't smoke in bars anymore as it is!

If people don't want to go that far, I would certainly authorize it for medical use.

Pot is the ONLY drug I would legalize, if I ruled the world.


23 posted on 11/21/2004 9:46:56 PM PST by jocon307 (Jihad is world wide. Jihad is serious business. We ignore global jihad at our peril.)
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To: april15Bendovr
... tax dollars = The only truth in the whole argument.

When "tax dollars" are at work .."things are taken away from you for the common good" (HC)

24 posted on 11/21/2004 9:55:18 PM PST by JoeSixPack1 (Typing incoherently on FR since May '98.)
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To: jocon307

No matter how many times I post this I will not gain friends as a result. If I can educate a few and learn from the posts then I have gained in other ways. I work with people that have destroyed their lives and try and help them to rebuild. I get pain and rewards from seeing both and that is my point.


25 posted on 11/21/2004 9:58:30 PM PST by april15Bendovr
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To: tickmeister
I figure old age will get me before any degenerative diseases that I initiate now. So my question is if I want to smoke a joint why is it any of anybodies damn business? <<<<<<<

> Frankly, I could care less, but when you guys smoke and drive (or drink, sniff, snort, shoot or swallow and drive) it potentially affects others. Other than the dude who ate Twinkies and used it for a murder defense, I've never heard of a guy high on potato chips causing an accident. But, you say, alcohol is legal.

Yes, but I can sit by a person who is having a drink, and it doesn't affect me until he gets into his car and drives into somebody or loses his temper, etc. I would have to smell the pot, and I don't want to do that. If you do it by yourself or sit around with a group of buddies and contemplate things, nobody will likely bother you while you're doing it in the privacy of your home.

26 posted on 11/21/2004 9:58:44 PM PST by Mjaye (PNN = Pajama News Network)
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To: april15Bendovr
It assists in dividing, isolating and dumbing down America

How so? Not everyone that smokes a joint on Saturday night is a high school kid or a college student. Try to see through the stereotypes. Do you really think all that weed grown/imported into the US is used by kids or lefties.

27 posted on 11/21/2004 10:03:42 PM PST by vikzilla
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To: vikzilla
All of those things are caused by the side effects of the drug. It doesn't matter who you are. Marijuana does not discriminate.
28 posted on 11/21/2004 10:06:14 PM PST by april15Bendovr
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To: sphinx

I am proof that it is not true. I have smoked pot most of my adult life and never voted for a democrat. My dad (USAF pilot)was an alcoholic and got sober when he was 47. I never drank. He and I had a little talk one day. He asked to try some weed. He could not feel the effects because they were so mild compared to alcohol...and it was very strong stuff. I asked him why he drank. He said because it was fun and he liked to get high. I said "that's it exactly. Same here, different drug." He got sober because he realized it had taken over his life and destroyed his family and his career. He was not religious but accepted that AA and the 12 step program was the only way he could do it. He became active in AA and founded 2 chapters. He was sober 28 years until he died at age 75. We share the determination for sobriety late in life. I am sober now and have been for some time, and there have been other occaisions when I have been sober for years. I think it is foolish to think that smoking pot is not bad for your health. It is irrelevant to try to decide if it is as bad or not as bad as cigarettes. I also believe that things that you do and the reasons that you do them change as you age. Alcohol and cigaretts are legal, and they are both demonstrated to be addictive and detrimental to your health. They are also mulit-billion dollar industies with entrenched constutencies that resist prohibition and promote prohibition of competing choices. People like to get high and have fun. Drug laws are in need of serious, sober review without hysterical sloganeering. There is a gangster subculture associated with drugs that is reminiscent of the gangster culture of the alcohol prohibition years. Pot should be legalized, regulated and taxed. Cocaine and heroin and pcp and LSD and estacy (sic?) should be illegal and the dealers vigorously prosecuted, while the users should be remanded to treatment programs.


29 posted on 11/21/2004 10:12:57 PM PST by kralcmot (Duh-uhhhhhhh ....wake up! and smell the cordite)
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To: vikzilla
If people are isolating more as a result of marijuana use then the drug is dividing families therefore ruining our country. Enough said.
30 posted on 11/21/2004 10:13:32 PM PST by april15Bendovr
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To: april15Bendovr
Before we change any of the drug laws, we need to secure our border. The war on terrorism may very well fail just like the war on drugs is currently failing. The problem is at the borders and they aren't secure. I'm for decriminalizing personal use of marijuana. Jail time for dealing or growing marijuana. Give licenses to some farmers to grow the stuff and tax the hell out of it. Make the age of use to be 21. We should make the age of use for tobacco cigarettes to be 20. Cops should fine kids with cigarettes when they're underage.

Just think of the disinformation put out by the Federal Bureau of Narcotics director Harry Anslinger at congress when they were voting on the Marijuana Tax Act of 1937, "Marijuana is the most violence causing drug in the history of mankind." "Most marijuana smokers are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz and swing, result from marijuana usage. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes." Now do you really believe that marijuana is the most violence causing drug in the history of mankind? The truth is marijuana was banned because you have this huge bureaucracy which has its funding cut because prohibition just ended. You also have lobbyists from the timber industry who don't want to compete with hemp for making paper. Marijuana should have never had been banned as a result of so much disinformation. This was all done contrary to what the American Medical Administration said at the time.
31 posted on 11/21/2004 10:16:01 PM PST by bahblahbah
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To: clee1
liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves

And, Liberaltarianism is the virus that perverts Conservatism.

Thanks for being the irrelevant 2% of the political population.

32 posted on 11/21/2004 10:16:37 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: april15Bendovr

THC is highly adictive and has a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde effect on some people. No drugs are safe unless used in moderation.


33 posted on 11/21/2004 10:21:48 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: vikzilla

I think pot should be legal. It is indeed bad for you, but so are many things in this world.

Alchohol is clearly a more dangerous drug than pot. You can get so drunk in a couple of hours that you can't even stand up, or worse, you die of alchohol poisoning.

You can't overdose on pot, it's impossible. You can only get so stoned, no matter how much pot you smoke. Which blows out of the water the whole arguement about the BC Bud being so dangerous because of the high THC content. If you have strong pot it just means you smoke less.

Look at tobacco and the hundreds of thousands of people it kills each year, yet it's legal. How can the government say that pot is too dangerous to legalize, yet the two legal recreational drugs we have today kill so many?

Up top the article mentioned that pharmaceutical companies came up with Marinol for sick patients as a replacement for pot. Drug company to patient: "Don't smoke pot, that stuff is dangerous, but here ya go, take this THC pill instead. Is it good for you? Who knows, but Marinol is our synthetically made THC which is patented, which means we make money when you take this. We don't make money when you smoke pot because we can't patent a plant. So remember, unpatented drugs that you take are bad for you because we don't get our cut. Got it? Great!"


34 posted on 11/21/2004 10:24:50 PM PST by Dozer3
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To: april15Bendovr
All of those things are caused by the side effects of the drug

"It assist in dividing, isolating and dumbing down America"

Ok, lets try that again, How So? Just making the statement means nothing, explain your statements.

35 posted on 11/21/2004 10:25:00 PM PST by vikzilla
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To: John Lenin

Agreed and anyone can be addicted to anything to an extreme if they have an addictive personality. Its to bad there is virtually no education to the public on the effects of marijuana while at the same time many wanting to make it legal. The side many don't want to see is the business end. To make it legal would mean it would have to have a filter on it with a lower THC content. Many people would be upset with their new high they receive bringing me back to my original point of addiction.


36 posted on 11/21/2004 10:30:05 PM PST by april15Bendovr
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To: april15Bendovr
If people are isolating more as a result of marijuana use then the drug is dividing families therefore ruining our country. Enough said

Are they isolating because of marijuana use or because of an institutionalized sobriety industry that needs to feed its own addiction to court mandated profits.

You wouldn't collect one of these paychecks would you?

37 posted on 11/21/2004 10:30:29 PM PST by vikzilla
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To: jocon307
I support medical marijuanna without question, and the legalization and taxation of marijuanna with some restrictions.

And just how do you tax Water Sunshine and Dirt? This is why it is still "Illegal"/UnTaxable.

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38 posted on 11/21/2004 10:31:39 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (Man, You should have seen them, kickin Edgar Allen Poe! Koo Koo Kachoo)
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To: april15Bendovr
Possibly a case of "Reefer Madness"?


39 posted on 11/21/2004 10:32:49 PM PST by SiVisPacemParaBellum (Peace through superior firepower!)
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To: vikzilla

Visual signs of long-term pot smoking are poor motor coordination, uncontrolled laughter, a lag or hesitation between thoughts, and unsteady hands. At one time, these were all thought to be short-term side effects--now known in many cases to be long-term with frequent use, according to a 1968 study by researchers W.H. McGlothin and L.J. West, published in the Hazelden booklet mentioned above. Other linked side effects include a symptom called amotivational syndrome, in which people become passive, apathetic, unmotivated, hedonistic, unconcerned about the future, unable to make plans and increasingly introverted.  


40 posted on 11/21/2004 10:32:52 PM PST by april15Bendovr
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