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To: Ken H
That language used does not convince me the the intent was to view someones individual tax return.

That is flat out illegal

What is what intended to do was give access without infringing on privacy laws. Basically, the same access granted to any IRS employee, and their oversight congress critters wanted the same.

It is too bad the language was written so badly, because it must be a pain in the ass for them to be granted access for oversight reasons. They will need to meet offsite someplace to do oversight.

I do wonder, how this particular language did not describe it's particular purpose? This is usually done and it was not in this case. Maybe it was meant to be a poison pill.

On the mental health screen, it is never good to alert people that a screen test is about to be given. the answers are then tainted.

Mental health screens are usually incorporated into another test. it is only a series of a few questions.

If the person knows they are being tested, they try to answer the questions with what they think the screener wants to see. It screws up the results and could even end up causing a counselor to interview the test taker because the answers are out of whack for the age group or they do not match up with other questions asked to determine insincerity..

Parents usually sign releases and waivers on a list of things at the beginning of the schools year. I would imagine that the screen will be mentioned along with the physical health permissions for the school.

A school is responsible for the health and safety of every child it has under it's roof. In view of this, I have no reason to be against a simple mental heath screen that I and probably everyone living has had and some more than once.

Being conservative does not mean you need to wear a tinfoil hat. If you don't like your kid getting drug tested or taking a simple mental heath screen, then you put my kids at risk.

Send your kid to private school and see what they do to screen students. These are different times. These times require more attention to detail.

124 posted on 11/26/2004 10:21:43 PM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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To: Cold Heat
Mental health screens are usually incorporated into another test. it is only a series of a few questions.

Would those questions include ones about guns in the home? Shouldn't we find out before approving it?

If the person knows they are being tested, they try to answer the questions with what they think the screener wants to see. It screws up the results and could even end up causing a counselor to interview the test taker because the answers are out of whack for the age group or they do not match up with other questions asked to determine insincerity..

Are you saying parents shouldn't be notified about the screen?

Parents usually sign releases and waivers on a list of things at the beginning of the schools year. I would imagine that the screen will be mentioned along with the physical health permissions for the school.

Where does the Federal government get the authority to screen all public school kids for mental health?

A school is responsible for the health and safety of every child it has under it's roof. In view of this, I have no reason to be against a simple mental heath screen that I and probably everyone living has had and some more than once.

If the government screeners ask your kids intrusive questions about your home, such as guns, would you have a problem with that?

Being conservative does not mean you need to wear a tinfoil hat. If you don't like your kid getting drug tested or taking a simple mental heath screen, then you put my kids at risk.

That's a bunch of socialist bullcrap. What evidence do you have that these screenings are going to improve the mental health of kids? Do you have that much confidence in government social scientists?

125 posted on 11/27/2004 3:50:46 PM PST by Ken H
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To: Cold Heat
These are different times.

"The Constitution is a Living Document" has gotten shopworn, and so the left needs a new catchphrase. I suppose that will do as well as any.

130 posted on 11/29/2004 10:33:21 AM PST by steve-b (I put sentences together suspiciously well for a righty blogger.)
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