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Rep. Istook, R-Okla. was responsible for the insertion of the provision... Developing...
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Posted on 11/21/2004 5:21:35 PM PST by ConservativeMan55

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To: Paladin2
If he took his job seriously, he'd read ALL the crap Congress proposed to stick us with proir to voting or submitting.

If they all took their jobs seriously, they'd all be looking at the crap Congress is trying to stick to us taxpayers. I'm all for the line item veto, yet, I'm against the idea of sticking amendments onto bills that have NO RELATIONSHIP to one another.

I understand the need to do it, but it's still idiotic.

101 posted on 11/22/2004 5:26:51 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Congratulations President-Re-Elect George W. Bush!)
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To: ConservativeMan55
I think this is a prime example of 'good intentions gone bad'.

We've seen it a gazillion times, these people have 'tunnel vision' when writing some Bill and a misplaced verb or noun leaves the barn door open for all kinds of future mischief. And when it's too late they go, "oops that wasn't my intent".

Heck, I just went through a similar situation with a Bill in IL. My State Rep wrote a Bill with 'good intentions' in mind, it was 'hijacked' and changed 100%. She then had to work her patoot off to DEFEAT her own bill, which she was able to, thank God.

102 posted on 11/22/2004 5:47:47 AM PST by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Gen G Patton)
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To: Condor51

Which kind of good intentions did Istook have? What was he trying to do?


103 posted on 11/22/2004 6:12:30 PM PST by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Dubya needs to take Istook to the woodshed and leave his bruised butt on public display.


104 posted on 11/23/2004 6:03:38 AM PST by steve-b (I put sentences together suspiciously well for a righty blogger.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

If some flunky did it, he should be fired. If the man did it himself, he should be censured.


105 posted on 11/23/2004 6:07:20 AM PST by cynicom (<p)
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To: Freepdonia
I hope it was somebody from his staff, because if he was the catalyst for that item in the bill, he should resign.

If he hired staffers who would do something this blatantly un-American, he should still resign. Istook is responsible for his minions (and refusing to accept that responsibility is an even greater offense than the act itself).

106 posted on 11/23/2004 6:08:19 AM PST by steve-b (I put sentences together suspiciously well for a righty blogger.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

I want to know who stuck in the H1B bull$hit!


107 posted on 11/23/2004 6:08:55 AM PST by HamiltonJay ("You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.")
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To: NCPAC
Remember Istook come next primary season.

And remember the Pubbie leadership in general, if they permit Istook to retain any position more powerful that Sub-Chairman of Paper Clips and Rubber Bands after pulling this stunt.

108 posted on 11/23/2004 6:09:56 AM PST by steve-b (I put sentences together suspiciously well for a righty blogger.)
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To: Cold Heat
Representative Ernest Istook, Republican of Oklahoma, who was responsible for the insertion of the tax provision in the 3,000-page, $388 billion legislation that provides financing for most of the government, issued a statement on Sunday saying that the language had actually been drafted by the Internal Revenue Service and that "nobody's privacy was ever jeopardized."

If he believes both of these statements, he needs to go back to the Oklahoma village that is missing its idiot.

109 posted on 11/23/2004 6:12:25 AM PST by steve-b (I put sentences together suspiciously well for a righty blogger.)
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To: TomGuy
Someone posted the text of the offending paragraph last evening (I didn't keep the link to that FR thread). It didn't read as so 'innocent' or 'typo' level of error (IIRC).
"Hereinafter, notwithstanding any other provision of law governing the disclosure of income tax returns or return information, upon written request of the Chairman of the House or Senate Committee on Appropriations, the Commissioner of the Internal Revenue Service shall allow agents designated by such Chairman access to Internal Revenue Service facilities and any tax returns or return information contained therein."
[emphasis added]
Note the explicit repeal of all privacy protections and the availability of the loophole to any friend, contributor, or passing acquaintance of the Appropriations Committee chair.

If this is an "innocent error", I'm the King of Romania.

110 posted on 11/23/2004 6:20:10 AM PST by steve-b (I put sentences together suspiciously well for a righty blogger.)
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To: Cold Heat
What happens now if a oversight committee member wants to visit a IRS office?

The IRS uses standard procedures to insure that confidential documents are not just lying around where any schlub wandering in off the street can read them.

The best case that can be made for Istook is that he got bamboozled by IRS bureaucrats (who would presumably get some favor in return for opening the door to this political abuse). Even if that's true, he's responsible for legislative language introduced under his name, and his head needs to roll for it.

111 posted on 11/23/2004 6:24:34 AM PST by steve-b (I put sentences together suspiciously well for a righty blogger.)
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To: Cold Heat
I don't know how they can ever solve it now.

The concept of having the individual tax returns locked up separately from the administrative documents (the latter being the ones that should be available to the oversight committee) didn't occur to you?

112 posted on 11/23/2004 6:27:02 AM PST by steve-b (I put sentences together suspiciously well for a righty blogger.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

If it's out of character for Istook, look for a Dem spy on his staff.


113 posted on 11/23/2004 6:34:11 AM PST by philetus (Zell Miller - One of the few)
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To: VictoryGal
Which kind of good intentions did Istook have?

From what I read his "intent" was to give Congress the authority to inspect any IRS office and its personnel (like for incompetence or say tax payer abuse), not an individual's tax returns.

So to me, anything that makes the IRS 'behave' is a good intention.

114 posted on 11/23/2004 8:21:15 AM PST by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Gen G Patton)
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To: steve-b
I am not trying to make excuses for this idiotic language, but just trying to point out the idiocy that it would take to have intentionally done what is inferred by some on this thread.

The audacity for anyone in congress to suspiciously write in language granting access to tax returns by congress is just not believable, and I don't think that is what happened.

If you look at the language in a generic way, it seems to be only granting clearances into the facility and access to the files.

Since the building is jam packed with returns, (that is all they do essentially, returns then would be everywhere.

I think this is as they said, "a tempest in a tea pot", and the offending language has been caught.

Unfortunately,it was caught by a jerk. A real honest to goodness jerk who I have known for over 40 years.

Kent Conrad, we used to call him "*unt", was a year behind me in school. he was a manipulator then and now. One of the worst little wormy SOB's on the planet and Class President, during my formative years in Bismark N.Dak.

He and his minions(staff)are very likely to have set this up.

I can guarantee that he is the kind that will do something like this!

Kent was also involved in the secret computer file BS that was uncovered prior to the election.

115 posted on 11/23/2004 9:37:53 AM PST by Cold Heat (There is more to do! "Mr. Kerry, about that Navy discharge?")
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To: steve-b

Agreed.


116 posted on 11/23/2004 9:45:46 AM PST by NCPAC (Social Darwinists Unite!)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Well, the msm will have a field day with this republican.


117 posted on 11/23/2004 9:46:41 AM PST by ampat
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To: Coyoteman
Probably some little Yalie on the staff.

Am I incorrect in thinking that staff is chosen, not assigned?

118 posted on 11/23/2004 9:50:37 AM PST by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan)
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To: Cold Heat

You are right on about Conrad...


119 posted on 11/23/2004 9:55:45 AM PST by txrangerette (q)
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To: txrangerette
Yes, he is a true blue,(red) weasel!

Picture a madras patterned shirt with a pocket protector full of greasy pens and a white belt with white shoes.(and a clip board)

He was always whining about perceived mistreatment and he learned the favor/payback game at a early age.

The product of rich parents and spoiled rotten.

LOL! Senate qualifications!

120 posted on 11/23/2004 10:11:33 AM PST by Cold Heat (There is more to do! "Mr. Kerry, about that Navy discharge?")
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