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Open Letter to Devil Dogs of the 3.1(by Kevin Sites)
kevinsites.net ^ | 11/21/04 | Kevin Sites

Posted on 11/21/2004 4:58:22 PM PST by finnman69

Edited on 11/21/2004 5:01:54 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

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To: CFC__VRWC

Exactly. See my post above. He'll shoot his yap off about how horrible the war was and how he saw babies shot before his very eyes and the dumbass kids will hang on every word with their moist lips agape.

He'll pick up big fees. He'll swagger around with his greasy long hair and post more images on anti-war sites while the Marines he helped slander will be living on much much less if they are living at all. He'll get rich but they'll still be proud.


101 posted on 11/21/2004 6:05:27 PM PST by squarebarb
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To: finnman69
Australian ABC
102 posted on 11/21/2004 6:08:54 PM PST by conservativecorner
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To: finnman69
If Sites were a real man, he would have titled his story with words to the effect of: "Marines whack another scumbag guerrilla fighter".

He would have painted the euthanization of an enemy insurgent in a positive manner to bring glory upon the Corps.

Alas, he was stupid

Post #66 is great!

103 posted on 11/21/2004 6:10:15 PM PST by Sarajevo
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To: MisterRepublican

Anti-American scum bag......I agree. He's a pig!!!


104 posted on 11/21/2004 6:10:27 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: 68skylark

"some new ways to help us retake the initiative in the information war"

hello. we are fighting the REAL WAR. the information war only exists in the minds of the MSM. the answer is simple. leave the reporters in the situation room drinking coffee. give them a few still fotos at the end of the action. my choice for this one would have been the headless and legless mutilated body of the "western" female. let them post that.

worried about the complaints from the MSM about no access? take the hit and get on with the war, the real war. win it and then argue with the press.

hello.


105 posted on 11/21/2004 6:14:39 PM PST by kralcmot (Duh-uhhhhhhh)
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To: finnman69
Sites is full of bull.

And why does it take a professional writer that many words of prose to defend his position? Because it's a flawed position, is why.

There is a God. Justice will be done. It won't be on this Earth, probably.

/john

106 posted on 11/21/2004 6:15:47 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (D@mit! I'm just a cook. Don't make me come over there and prove it!)
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To: finnman69
"The Marine who fired the shot had reportedly been shot in the face himself the day before."

So he is probably on heightened alert.

"I'm also well aware ..., when dead and wounded insurgents have been booby-trapped, even supposedly including an incident that happened just a block away from the mosque in which one Marine was killed and five others wounded."

Yes, he is definitely on alert, that's a fact!

"No one, especially someone like me who has lived in a war zone with you, would deny that a solider or Marine could legitimately err on the side of caution under those circumstances. War is about killing your enemy before he kills you."

Wise words of advice, actually another fact about war.

"...it bothered me that the Marine didn't seem to consider the other insurgents a threat -- the one very obviously moving under the blanket..."

So, seems to me something really didn't seem right with this guy, right? If this marine is just a uncaring killing machine, why didn't he waste everyone in the whole room? Why would he pick on this one guy at random? Kevin, you said it yourself, he didn't consider the others a threat, but he certainly did on this one (another fact).

"I can't know what was in the mind of that Marine. He is the only one who does."

Yes indeed. And it seems to me you gave yourself plenty of facts to explain the situation, but that didn't seem like enough for you, did it?

So why do you feel the need to show this video to others, knowing how controversial it would be?

Because you knew the attention you would get from it, you were only thinking about Kevin.

107 posted on 11/21/2004 6:17:55 PM PST by Bob Mc
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To: Radix
I think that he has likely been lurking on FR threads concerning this incident. Possibly other sites as well. That and the E-mails he is getting likely prompted this.

I think it's more likely that the Marines of 3.1 won't even give him the time of day, much less any cooperation, now that he has revealed his hard left colors. So with typical liberal arrogance and hubris, he feels he can write this missive and fool the grunts into thinking he's playing his job straight - after all, in his mind, the Marines are simple-minded rubes who aren't worthy of washing his underwear. It's the same attitude - we're too stupid to know better - that defines the MSM here at home, and the attitude that's driving the democrats into faking piety and a belief in God.

108 posted on 11/21/2004 6:19:47 PM PST by CFC__VRWC (It's not evidence of wrongdoing just because Democrats don't like the outcome.)
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To: CFC__VRWC

Betrayal is an ugly thing and Sites knows that is just what he did. And it's very public and it is there for the world to see. He betrayed that young Marine into a courts-martial and he betrayed all the Marines to Al Jazeera.

Having a point of view is one thing. Betraying American soldiers to the enemy is another.


109 posted on 11/21/2004 6:26:15 PM PST by squarebarb
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To: JRandomFreeper
And why does it take a professional writer that many words of prose to defend his position? Because it's a flawed position, is why.

That, plus I think this kind of Olympian, condescending, preachy and self-aggrandizing writing style is just another trait of the mental illness known as liberalism.

110 posted on 11/21/2004 6:28:19 PM PST by CFC__VRWC (It's not evidence of wrongdoing just because Democrats don't like the outcome.)
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To: kralcmot

"...give them a few still fotos at the end of the action. my choice for this one would have been the headless and legless mutilated body of the "western" female. let them post that."

yes, good advice. this man makes my blood boil. now he wants to "explain" to the people he was with?

{SELF CENSORSHIP HERE}


111 posted on 11/21/2004 6:30:35 PM PST by jocon307 (Jihad is world wide. Jihad is serious business. We ignore global jihad at our peril.)
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To: jimbo123

I sent the following e-mail to Mr. Sites:

How did Al Jazeera get the tape? Did you know they would get the tape? If you did, why are you performing cervices that will benefit Al Jazeera and obviously hurt the interests of the United States, especially the interests of individual Soldiers and Marines? It appears that you betrayed the Armed Forces and the rest of the citizens of the United States. Even if you did not know for certain that the tape would get to Al Jazeera, couldn't you have reasonably expected that it would?
Why did you wait until the man was shot to tell the Marines what you had told the lieutenant?
You said the following about the Marine: "The anger that seemed present just moments before turned to fear and dread." Are you a mind reader? Are you trying to hang this guy out to dry for the sake of your own career or conscience?
From your CYA letter, you seem to think this matter is all about you. It's not!


112 posted on 11/21/2004 6:36:36 PM PST by olrtex
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To: MisterRepublican

No kidding, shove-it is right. This seems like WAY too much tap-dancing to me, like a kid might do that is caught in a corner. Yes, perhaps in a perfect world, NBC would handle it right and say the exact right things. Do you just suppose anyone else could use it for their own purposes? Like Al-Jazeera? Oh, I know, let's make them PROMISE they wouldn't. DUH.


113 posted on 11/21/2004 6:37:32 PM PST by bboop
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To: jimbo123

"Time Magazine sticks up for the traitor:"

Time magazine S*cks, if you doubt it asked famed Pornographer and publisher of Screw magazine Al Goldstein. I knew it s*cked since I was a little girl tagging along with dad & brothers to the barbershop so I could read the magazines. I was 10 years old, it was 1968, and I KNEW Time magazine was an Anti-American piece of cr*p. It has certainly only gotten worse. Mr. Goldstein offered his own assessment on NY cable tv circa 1986. It continues to decline.


114 posted on 11/21/2004 6:38:10 PM PST by jocon307 (Jihad is world wide. Jihad is serious business. We ignore global jihad at our peril.)
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To: Poohbah
Given your previous posts on the subject, I thought you might like to read this. Obviously, it's only adding fuel to the fire, but it does back up some points you've made, especially about the Marines seeing the tape BEFORE releasing it to the press.

It seems that emotion has totally overtaken the events here.

115 posted on 11/21/2004 6:40:22 PM PST by Long Cut (The Constitution...the NATOPS of America!)
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To: finnman69
My conclusion after reading Kevin Sites is that he's 1) bragging about being there in battle and mentions that he's not necessarily "anti-war" and 2) a whiny cowardly brat that is turning a mole-hill into a mountain by focusing on one act during battle as if that minutiae alone defines this war.

Basically, he's an arrogant know-it-all.
116 posted on 11/21/2004 6:40:25 PM PST by Fledermaus (Are we a nation divided? Yes. Is it Red-Blue? No. It's the Sane vs. the Insane Left!!!!!)
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To: squarebarb
He betrayed that young Marine into a courts-martial and he betrayed all the Marines to Al Jazeera.

I hadn't heard that the military was going to court martial him - I thought they were still investigating the shooting. Is this a new development?

117 posted on 11/21/2004 6:40:28 PM PST by CFC__VRWC (It's not evidence of wrongdoing just because Democrats don't like the outcome.)
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To: finnman69
"Anyone who has seen my reporting on television or has read the dispatches on this website is fully aware of the lengths I've gone to play it straight down the middle -- not to become a tool of propaganda for the left or the right."

Sorry, Mr. Sites. This is not a time to play it straight down the middle. Don't tell us you didn't know how the enemy was going to play this once you filed your report.

No middle of the roaders in this war. You're with us or against us. Our military has the discipline and the sense to do what's right if a wrong was committed. Don't need your help to make a bad situation worse. You caused public opnion to come against us in the ME, providing more fuel to the terrorists and resistance to the upcoming election.

Your deeds were not noble and your employer's were less. You lack common sense and your timing couldn't have been more terrible. American journalists can't be neutral in this area of combat nor in this type of war. Ask the last neutral journalist that was beheaded.

No friendly ear here. Go home. Better yet, trade your camera for a rifle. You're camera lens will not separate you from the war. You are part of it -- for the better or for the worse.

118 posted on 11/21/2004 6:41:40 PM PST by Eastbound ("Neither a Scrooge nor a Patsy be")
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To: finnman69
I knew NBC would be responsible with the footage.

Lie #2.

119 posted on 11/21/2004 6:41:52 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: 68skylark
We're winning the ground war in Iraq, but we seem to be losing the information war -- the Arab press has seized the initiative, and they're kicking our ass daily.

It used to be that the US press was on our side in a war. Those days are over. Now ALL the press, both the enemy's and ours are on their side. Sickening. That's why I ignore them.
120 posted on 11/21/2004 6:45:10 PM PST by Antoninus (Santorum in '08)
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