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Who Lost Ohio?
New York Times Magazine ^
| November 21, 2004
| MATT BAI
Posted on 11/21/2004 6:22:22 AM PST by John Jorsett
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To: John Jorsett
No one lost Ohio. Bush won Ohio, which was never Kerry's to lose.
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posted on
11/21/2004 6:23:18 AM PST
by
dufekin
(Four more years! Liberals, learn: whiners are losers every time.)
To: John Jorsett
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posted on
11/21/2004 6:27:15 AM PST
by
BenLurkin
(Big government is still a big problem.)
To: John Jorsett
Read the whole thing on the Times site. Enjoyable read.
The last paragraph was the best.
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posted on
11/21/2004 6:27:20 AM PST
by
steveyp
To: John Jorsett
A quiet disbelief descended on the room. You could hear the creak of a folding chair, a ringing cellphone, the intermittent sob. "This is the end of the United States of America," I heard one man declare as he left the room.LOL! What a bunch of LOSERS!
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posted on
11/21/2004 6:28:45 AM PST
by
FormerLib
(Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
To: steveyp
The rude awakening here is that I always thought there were more of us out there. And this time there were more of them."Hey Tonto, we're in deep doodoo. We're surrounded by Indians."
"Speak for yourself, white man."
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posted on
11/21/2004 6:32:52 AM PST
by
JusPasenThru
(The Democrats need to get over their love affair with abortion.)
To: John Jorsett
These folks are such freakin crybabies.
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posted on
11/21/2004 6:33:42 AM PST
by
bikepacker67
("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
To: John Jorsett
For Democrats, this new phenomenon on Election Day felt like some kind of horror movie, with conservative voters rising up out of the hills and condo communities in numbers the Kerry forces never knew existed.Seems like the author is trying to make us look like zombies. But nevertheless, I really like this line!
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posted on
11/21/2004 6:33:50 AM PST
by
68skylark
To: John Jorsett
At least Florida now has a break from being the cause of the Dems losing.
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posted on
11/21/2004 6:36:19 AM PST
by
joonbug
To: John Jorsett
Who Lost Ohio?I don't know, but maybe they should check under the couch cushions...
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posted on
11/21/2004 6:39:02 AM PST
by
MWS
To: John Jorsett
''The shortcoming in some ways is that the national Democratic Party has built this values wall between itself and a lot of voters out there, and the Republicans took advantage of it. The rude awakening here is that I always thought there were more of us out there. And this time there were more of them.''
I don't think the REPUBLICANS TOOK ADVANTAGE... the Democrats pushed them OUT. Not only did the force them out, they ridiculed the faithful old mules that pull the cart the DNC fat boys ride around in. The DNC embraced the ACLU manifesto, which repulses the majority of this nation. = = = = =
Revealing FACTS on the ACLU from its own writings
"Stated Goals The ACLU's founder, Roger Baldwin, stated: "We are for SOCIALISM, disarmament, and ultimately for abolishing the state itself... We seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and the SOLE CONTROL of those who produce wealth. COMMUNISM is the goal." (Source: Trial and Error, by Geo. Grant)" Source: http://dianedew.com/aclu.htm
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posted on
11/21/2004 6:40:01 AM PST
by
JesseJane
(Air France flights 1192, 491, 288, 751, 216, now boarding...)
To: John Jorsett; RightOnGOP
great read, thanks for posting
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posted on
11/21/2004 6:43:19 AM PST
by
jern
To: John Jorsett
'I can't think of a thing in Ohio that we could have done more to boost our vote,'' Steve Rosenthal told me three days after the election, as the trauma of the defeat began to subside I posted it days before the election. Those 250,000 unioinized Ohio factory workers that had been layed off from 2000 to 2004 were Democratic voters. Their spouses were Democratic voters as well.
Do you know where those 500 thousand Ohio Democrats went? Did they show up at Kerry campaign events? Had there been 250 thousand out of work factory workers in ohio they would have been at Kerry campaign events. The national media would have interviewed them every night on National TV. Did you see any of them. You only heard they existed and could not wait to vote for Kerry.
Nearly all of those 250 thoudand permanent lay offs and their families moved south and west. They went to where the jobs were and they took their families with them. They were not in Ohio to vote for Kerry.
The huge Democratic efforts to add 250 thousand new Democratic voters in ohio only made up half the Democrat losses from 2000 to 2004. Adding new democratic votes did not add any net Democratic voters. The new Democratic registrations barely make up for the lost Democratic voters that moved away. Anyone who can read "House for Sale" signs could take a short drive and figure it out.
Meanwhile back at the Republican headquarters they too were adding new voters... some 85,000 of them. But the Republicans were not replacing voters that moved away. They were adding new voters. On top of that both parties did a much better job of getting out the vote.
What the Democrats failed to understand was the loss of 250 thousand Ohio Factory jobs cost the Democrats 500 thousand Ohio voters. They did worse than they did in 2000 because of that simple fact!!
To: John Jorsett
''This is the end of the United States of America,'' I heard one man declare as he left the room.
HAHAHAHA!!! Well, it's the beginning of the end of what you THOUGHT America was- a Godless, Virtues, Valueless Wasteland. Don't cry about it liberal, you can always move to europe or canada, it might make you feel good to give one last snub to America.
In the years to come, as Virtue regains dominance, you'll be relegated to the fringe with your failed ideas, right where you belong.
Owl_Eagle
Guns Before Butter.
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posted on
11/21/2004 6:46:50 AM PST
by
End Times Sentinel
(France, because the moral compass of humanity needs a butt end.)
To: John Jorsett
Who lost Ohio? Nobody. It's west of PA, right where I left it!
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posted on
11/21/2004 6:50:19 AM PST
by
airborne
(God bless and keep our fallen heroes.)
To: John Jorsett
This is typical of the
New York Times. The article leads with, spends most of its time on, the "good guys," the Democrats, the Kerry people. Only begrudgingly and late in the game does the
Times bother to mention the Republicans, who did a better job at turnout, and who actually won the election.
Click below for more.
Congressman Billybob
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To: MWS
stop that. you made me snog my laptop screen....
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posted on
11/21/2004 6:50:35 AM PST
by
philomath
(from the state of franklin)
To: John Jorsett
I love a stroy with a sad ending... for a bunch of losers.
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posted on
11/21/2004 6:56:18 AM PST
by
WayneM
(Remember; "Saturday people first. Sunday people next.")
To: John Jorsett
I am waiting for the equally biased 'Who saved Ohio" from the republican side. Of course, 'Who lost Ohio' is a reference to 'Who lost China' But of course that is exactly what didn't happen. Ohio did not fall into the communist camp.
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posted on
11/21/2004 6:56:38 AM PST
by
blanknoone
(The last time the Dems seceded it was to keep blacks as slaves.)
To: dufekin
They really thought they were in the majority.
They really thought that if they did a good job of turning out the vote, that and their habitual fraud would take the election.
I wonder if they were just simply wrong, or actually delusional.
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posted on
11/21/2004 7:00:29 AM PST
by
dsc
(LIBERALS: If we weren't so darned civilized, there'd be a bounty on them.)
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