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Desperate housewives, indeed [Ellen Goodman 'muses' about her favorite show]
The Boston Globe ^ | November 21, 2004 | By Ellen Goodman

Posted on 11/21/2004 3:58:00 AM PST by johnny7

I'M NOT supposed to like "Desperate Housewives." It's either post-feminist or pre-feminist. It's too racy or too retro. It's either an example of the backlash or a product of the cultural collapse. The "DH" steaminess has the American Family Association railing against its sex in the suburbs. The "DH" locker room promo on "Monday Night Football" has the FCC in wardrobe malfunction mode.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: trashtv
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To: johnny7

She chose her own miserable single childless life and now that her biological clock has run down she is jealous of all mothers.


2 posted on 11/21/2004 4:03:14 AM PST by Alouette (When the wicked perish, there is jubilation! Proverbs 11:10)
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To: johnny7

Ms. Goodman is insufferable.


3 posted on 11/21/2004 4:14:29 AM PST by SE Mom (God Bless our troops.)
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To: johnny7
My favorite show... its trashy, fun and the twists keep you interested til the next episode. A lot of people wondered about the premise and so far it has viewers hooked. Boston Legal that follows is much better. I really like "Denny Crane."
4 posted on 11/21/2004 4:14:31 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: johnny7
What a f__king bitch.

No offence Johnny, but couldn't you have come up with some slightly better as an analysis. This is pretty crude and IMHO gives Freepers a bad name. There are many more smart ways to tear apart Ms Goodman. What you have here is almost worthy of the DU though.

5 posted on 11/21/2004 4:16:48 AM PST by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (When you are driving toward a wall, you probably should not accelerate.)
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To: goldstategop

Goodman joins in the celebration of the American woman as whore.


6 posted on 11/21/2004 4:17:21 AM PST by gaspar
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To: goldstategop
FWIW, I just can't get past the trashy part to see any appeal. But I admit I'm pretty much a stick in the mud :) To each his own.
7 posted on 11/21/2004 4:19:34 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: goldstategop
I really like "Denny Crane."

Dittoes!

8 posted on 11/21/2004 4:20:28 AM PST by JennysCool
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To: gaspar

Actually only one of the characters is unfaithful. One is the suffering ex, one is the stepford wife and the other is the career woman-cum-mom. You've Got Ms. Playgirl, Ms. Martyr, Ms. Perfect and Ms. SuperWoman. A gallery of every woman cliches. I'm amazed this show is even a ratings hit.


9 posted on 11/21/2004 4:21:23 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: johnny7

It may not be a very Christian thought on a Sunday morning, but I can't help but think that Ellen Goodman's mother should *certainly* have had the RU486 pill available to her.

What a waste of skin, oxygen, and random neurons.


10 posted on 11/21/2004 4:21:26 AM PST by Mad Mammoth
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To: johnny7

She and Maureen Dowd and Molly Ivans et al should start the Bitter B*tch Association, for feminists who have made unnatural choices throughout their lives and now loudly complain that things are not going their way. I suppose we should pity them, but they don't make it easy.


11 posted on 11/21/2004 4:24:28 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: goldstategop

So how often do you get to see the kids?


12 posted on 11/21/2004 4:25:14 AM PST by johnny7 (“We blowed 'em up real good!” -John Candy & Joe Flaherty, SCTV)
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To: kittymyrib

Housewives? Who imagined a soap opera about housewives would be popular? Not the NOW NAGs, that's for sure.


13 posted on 11/21/2004 4:26:01 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: johnny7

I'm a single guy. But we men can still find fascination in what women do when we're away at work. So I guess that's why DH appeals to men as well as women. There's curiosity in what the other sex does all day.


14 posted on 11/21/2004 4:27:34 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: gaspar
BINGO. And the Boston Globe which publishes this nonsense
is none other than the Mouthpiece of Allah and al Qaeda.

PROOF: NOT ONE WORD IN THE BOSTON GLOBE ON PRESIDENT BUSH'S RESCUE OF HIS SS AGENT LAST NIGHT.

15 posted on 11/21/2004 4:31:04 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Then I say unto you, send men to summon ... worms. And let us go to Fallujah to collect heads.")
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To: goldstategop
Everybody talks about the more sensational aspects of the series, but what I like about it is in the overall tone of black comedy -- it's like "Twin Peaks" written by Shirley Jackson in her "suburban" mode. You really believe anything can happen.
16 posted on 11/21/2004 4:31:21 AM PST by JennysCool
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To: kittymyrib
NOW's idea of a TV show would be Heather And Helen At Home.
17 posted on 11/21/2004 4:31:38 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: johnny7

I ahvent seen this show I have seen the "Forum " and gone away gagging and throwing up.


18 posted on 11/21/2004 4:32:10 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: JennysCool

Yes... especially about the death of the friend in the pilot episode. Why did she die? No one knows and her friends keep looking for answers. It seems like a simple suicide but there's more to it and every episode we learn a little more about the deceased but we never see the whole picture and neither do the characters in the quaint little suburb of Wisteria.


19 posted on 11/21/2004 4:34:05 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: johnny7

"She's saying, yes, you can want to be at home and still admit to going nuts at 5 p.m. Yes, you can be fiercely in love with your children and long to pack up the minivan and drive off. Yes, you can be dedicated to doing the right thing and not at all sure you're doing it."

I usually disagree with her, but this is priceless. I love the show. It's quirky and funny and absolutely far removed from my life, but she nails it.

As the mother of a house full of boys, there were times, especially when they were just starting to run to 11 years old that I could have cheerfully put them in a closet and nailed the door shut by 5:00. Heck, by 3:00!

Boys fight. They run. They tease each other. They throw stuff, jump on the furniture, one of mine (the brightest one btw), even took a sheet and jumped out of a tree to see if he could make a parachute (broken arm). They jumped ramps like Evel Kneival (broken arm), make forts in the woods, and bring home stray animals they expect to keep.

Too bad it didn't last. They became adolescents and that's when you really need a strong lock on a closet.


20 posted on 11/21/2004 4:34:29 AM PST by OpusatFR (tagline fatigue~ check in tomorrow.)
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