'Hey, Hurry Up. You're Holding Up My Men' (Fallujah)

The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 11-21-2004 | Toby Harnden(?)

[68skylark]

I, too, was castigated, for quoting a searingly authentic talk by a staff sergeant, in which he suggested to his men that their commanding officer had been killed because he had been careless.

I've been trying to find a copy of this story, but no luck so far. He doesn't seem to be referring to his stories in the Telegraph on Nov 9, 10 or 11. If anyone has a link, I'd like to see the story he's talking about. (His work from the 9th, 10th and 11th is pretty good, IMHO, for those who are interested.)

[Psycho_Bunny]

"I expect you to pile in and kick someone's ass."

"Grab your stuff, asshole, and come with me,"

It's hard for me to decide which one of these quotes I like more.

[Ben Chad]

JeeperFreeper! So true:

The media is not now our ally in any way; the media is the enemy of the military and the war on terror.

[McGavin999]

The question is, was it published before his next of kin were notified? Imagine finding out your husband or son was killed by seeing him laying in a pool of blood in a newspaper.

[zzen01]

You ever in the miltary?

[68skylark]

Yeah. My home page gives a little background. Why do you ask?

[zzen01]

I mean Military.

[68skylark]

I'm in the U. S. Army Reserve. I'm just back from Camp MacKall (near Ft. Bragg), and I'm headed to Ft. Dix in a week for more training. My unit is deploying to Iraq in a few months. I don't know if that answers your question.

[zzen01]

Go Airborne! I am retired US Navy! I was just wondering because you sounded like you were taking up for the journo. I guess I better check before I shoot my mouth off huh! We are Brothers-in-Arms.

[FrankRepublican]

Toby Harnden is a pretty good reporter and writer. He was in the UK military. His paper, UK Telegraph, is about the only conservative or at least not lefty biased UK paper.

I think the other is the Daily Mail. Even the Times of London has become sowaht left even though Murdoch owns it. The Sun is somewhat conservative but it is a tabloid like the NY Post.

[zzen01]

God's Speed Brother!

[68skylark]

I think some reporters are the scum of the earth. But others aren't so bad, and some are good. I realize this opinion isn't always popular at FR, but it's my opinion anyway.

I've served with some great guys with Navy experience. I'd love to have an American sailor with me in combat any time.

[Fenris6]

LOL. Is the embed reporting the news or trying to get laid by his readers back home?

[PajamaTruthMafia]

This is the hardest lesson for many people to learn. I teach it to my 5 year old son every chance I get: You can't blame a Tiger for being a Tiger. In the end, the Tiger will bite. It is in its nature.

In this case, no matter what you do or say, reporters in the end are going to stab you in the back. It is the nature of the beast. People fool themselves into thinking they are immune to the Tiger's bite.

[Blood of Tyrants]

I, too, was castigated, for quoting a searingly authentic talk by a staff sergeant, in which he suggested to his men that their commanding officer had been killed because he had been careless. He did say it. But only so much reality could be tolerated.

This article was posted here a few days ago. The company lost it's XO a few days vefore and then lost it's CO exactly as the sergeant said, to carelessness. He kicked in a door and went in before checking the room or tossing in a grenade.

[nothernlights]

Ollie North was military first very military.

[Ramonan]

Now, Tha's the way it OUGHT to be!

[Vigilanteman]

None of us had much difficulty with any of this. After all, anything that put the lives of soldiers at risk would be potentially just as dangerous for us.

I like the guy based on this statement alone. He may be a self-absorbed ass like many of the presstitutes, but at least he knows what side he is on. Unlike a certain American video photographer.

[narby]

He understands that the photograph is why he was ostracized, but he seems to think that it was the reality that was unacceptable

I read that it was someone else who took the photograph, not this guy. Although this writer was criticized for writing about what someone said about the unit CO.

[El Gato]

Ollie North was an enbedded reporter.

But he's also a retired Lt. Colonel of Marines. Similarly this reporter is a former Brit solider. Maybe only former military should be allowed as embeds?