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I pointed this out on another thread. Land grant Colleges are where the little people go and are more conservative. Plus Clemson turns out among the finest engineers.

My husband graduated there with an engineering degree 26 years ago and has done very well. Our son started there this fall in engineering. He was pleasantly surprised at how conservative the campus is.

Conservative politics and great engineers - can't beat that!

I graduated Clemson in 1987 and went on to Duke for grad school. I remembered Clemson as a place where education was the primary goal of the university and Duke as a place where political correctness was the primary goal of the university. Sadly, the stories I hear from today's Clemson students sound more like Duke 1988 than like the Clemson I knew and loved. I fear the PC cancer is spreading (I dread to think what Duke must be like now).

By the way, I just came back from the game. The trouble started when Clemson ran down the hill and the Carolina players ran into the end zone to confront the Clemson players. Going past the 25 yard line itself, much less the goal line, should have been a penalty. They should have assessed a personal foul on South Carolina on the first play. Instead they called offsetting personal fouls and did nothing. This is not to say the Gameycocks are evil and the cause of the fight (even though they are and they were), but rather that the officials lost control of the game at that point. There was unnecessary roughness by both sides throughout the game, and nothing was done. There were confrontations between players throughout the game, and nothing was done to either side. Finally the fight comes along and what happens? Offsetting penalties. We in the crowd were embarrassed and booing the fight. But what would you expect from a bunch of 18 to 22 year old kids who are at a fever pitch of emotion over a huge rivalry game? The officials should have nipped it in the bud by assessing penalties for the confrontation at the hill and then ejecting players (from BOTH sides) if the confrontations continued. Then with the fight they should have ejected at least 5 players from each side to set an example. But they couldn't even bring themselves to do that. I have seen this sort of thing happen in courtrooms and classrooms when the judge or the teacher fail to take charge. This fight happened because the officials failed to take charge and send the message that fighting would not be tolerated.

And contrary to reports, Lou Holtz did little or nothing to break up the fights. His players ran right past him to get into the fray. The troopers came from the sidelines and separated the teams, and then the Carolina players mobbed the troopers! Lou Holtz had zero control over his team. It was the more level headed of the Carolina players that ended the fray with the troopers, with the help of a very large and imposing member of the Death Valley sideline staff.

"My husband graduated there with an engineering degree 26 years ago and has done very well. Our son started there this fall in engineering. He was pleasantly surprised at how conservative the campus is."

I also have a son at Clemson, an engineering student as well. He is from the midwest and loves most of what he has encountered.