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The UN, France And Pals Are Responsible For Dead Coalition Troops. (Vanity)
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Posted on 11/20/2004 11:51:36 AM PST by UpHereEh

During the past US Presidential election - and since, the American Left went out of its way to demonize President George W Bush.

Their most important reason to oust Bush from having four more years was the way he acted unilaterally in global issues.

The mantra from the Left was simple: Vote for Kerry and he will reestablish America's relationships with our old allies such as France and Germany.

Elect John Kerry and he will reestablish America's prestige with the United Nations.

But . . . reelect George W Bush. And America will be assured to continue going it alone.

To the American Left, it appeared that what the UN and Old Europe had to say about American and world policy, was somehow more important than what Americans had to say about American and world policy.

I am ceratin, without a doubt, that Kerry's remarks about passing a global test did far more for his popularity in Europe and at the UN, than it did for him in the USA.

And now that the American Senate sub committee investigating the Iraqi Oil For Food Program has unveiled a horror-story of international corruption, Bush is looking all that much better. And Kerry is looking all that much more irrelevant.

Here's the bottom-line as I see it:

It was not George W Bush and his inner "war team" (Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Rice) who were responsible for having to invade Iraq: it was the UN, France and all the others who cheated, aided and abetted Saddam Hussein.

When the story began to break about some kind of scandal with the program that allowed Saddam to sell oil in exchange for food and medical supplies, I thought it was just the usual. You know; a handful of crooked politicians beating the system for a "few" bucks.

But now, it appears that the "few" bucks are more than $21 BILLION. And that's only what we know about.

We can't even begin to guess how much Saddam kicked-back in return.

The US Senate is demanding to see the UN files. They want to see the receipts for the oil. Who got what. And under which circumstances. They want to know who was bribed. And who violated the International Sanctions everyone agreed upon.

The whole idea of the sanctions and the embargo was to choke Saddam into submission, and to make certain he couldn't be a military threat to anyone. But it didn't work. Not just because Saddam cheated. But because the UN and their pals did.

The demand from the US Senate for the UN to turn over the documents has been directly refused by Kofi Anan. I wonder why?

So, when the UN and their pals were accusing George W Bush and his embargo policy of committing infanticide in Iraq, by withholding food and medicine due to the embargo, nothing could have been further from the truth.

And the worst part: The accusers knew it.

Iraq was awash with money. But not the money they were supposed to have received. And not any money that went towards the comfort of the people. Starving children included. Iraq had vaults overflowing with blood-money from the UN and Old Europe.

It is clear why the UN and their putrid pals routinely voted against their own resolution to take action against Saddam Hussein. They were paid off.

Had the UN, France and the others not betrayed the USA, the world, and the Iraqi people: America, Britain, Australia, Poland, the Czech Republic, Italy, Spain and others would not have had to invade Iraq.

Had the sanctimonious UN and France not sold-out honor, principles and morality for a "few" bucks from a genocidal maniac, Americans and their allies would not have died on the Iraqi battlefields.

I never disagreed; not even once, with George W Bush's position on the irrelevance of the UN. I never once questioned in my own mind what the motives were for France to be so supportive of Saddam. I didn't know what was in it for France. But I knew it had to be something. And now we all know.

For all the Leftists and doubters who supported John Kerry's position on multilateralism, you have to be shaking your heads in disbelief and betrayal. Not that Kerry knew the truth. But that Kerry put so much faith in a world full of cheats, rather than in his own country.

Every time an American, and/or coalition soldier is wounded or killed. Thank the UN, France and their friends. Every time you see how enormous the US deficit is because of the cost of the war. Thank the UN, France and their friends. Every time American social services are at financial risk. Thank the UN, France and their friends.

And the next time someone says the USA should follow the lead of Paris. Or wait for approbation from Paris. Think about the Oil For Food Scam, the Hungry Iraqi kids. And the dead coalition soldiers.

And if after all of this, if Kerry supporters and Bush antagonists don't take a moment to reflect on how tragic it would have been for the US to have a global appeaser in the White House. I don't know what else I can say to them.

Because at this juncture, with all we know now, there is nothing more to say.

By Howard Galganov

Saturday, November 20, 2004


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: kerrydefeat; kerrywot
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1 posted on 11/20/2004 11:51:36 AM PST by UpHereEh
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To: UpHereEh

intresting.... you wouldn't be from Canada Eh?


2 posted on 11/20/2004 11:53:37 AM PST by Americanwolf (Freedom... Protected by the brave so the meek and lazy don't have to get off the sofa.)
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To: UpHereEh
But now, it appears that the "few" bucks are more than $21 BILLION. And that's only what we know about.

Like the tip of an iceberg.

The axis of corruption France, Germany and the UN, have indeed been responsible for the death of many innocents.

3 posted on 11/20/2004 11:59:39 AM PST by evad (The existence of Israel would not pass JF'nK's Global Test)
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To: UpHereEh

Excellent. I couldn't have said it better myself.


4 posted on 11/20/2004 12:01:09 PM PST by Norman Bates (Usama Bin Laden, 1957-2005)
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To: evad

No way. You have the command over these men and women wearing the US patch, and you are responsible for their actions. For Germany, I refuse any responsibility for what happened in Iraq since March 2003. Period.


5 posted on 11/20/2004 12:01:55 PM PST by Michael81Dus
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To: evad

Why does the U.S. continue to play Mr Nice Guy with these countries (and the UN)?


6 posted on 11/20/2004 12:02:20 PM PST by Norman Bates (Usama Bin Laden, 1957-2005)
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To: Michael81Dus

That's pretty accusatory given the way France, Germany and the UN have been acting since late 2002. The point was their corruption forced us to go to war though we only realized that since. And bribe money from those countries (and the UN) has been used by insurgents and terrorists in Iraq, too.


7 posted on 11/20/2004 12:06:02 PM PST by Norman Bates (Usama Bin Laden, 1957-2005)
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To: UpHereEh

I agree with your post and as I have said before when the UN rep called for an International Court of Inquiry for the actions of the young Marine who killed the enemy terrorist. ( Wounded or not, I don't give a damn. The Marine had to make the call, he made it. War is Hell Semper Fi)

I would rather go to WAR with the world before one US Soldier, Sailor, Marine or Coastguardsman stnds before an International Court. The people responsible for this WAR are on the long list Gangsters, murderers and thieves... who accepted the kickbacks from the Oil for FOOD Program. They are the reason the Sactions Failed. The people that should be before an International Court are Kofi Annan, Chirac ...... These were my feelings last week, and I am very happy that you have come to the same conclusion.


8 posted on 11/20/2004 12:13:44 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Defending America)
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To: Michael81Dus
Nothing personal but my reference is to the governments, not the people of Germany or even France. I'm not one of those that finds credibility in the "Europe hates America" crowd.

It would be great if you as a person could actually do something about decisions made by the governing body.

9 posted on 11/20/2004 12:18:43 PM PST by evad (The existence of Israel would not pass JF'nK's Global Test)
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To: UpHereEh

Annan and Chirac must be seething in hatred of Pres. Bush now that Saddam is no longer able to send millions in protection money.


10 posted on 11/20/2004 12:32:38 PM PST by citizencon
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To: UpHereEh

You still need to explain what the oil for food scandal (money that went from Iraq to Iraq, btw, in case you haven't understood yet how the system worked) has to do with the WMD the Pentagon was sure Iraq had. I thought that's why there are coalition troops in Iraq.

Also I don't see what Germany has to do with all that, considering Germany was not involved in the scandal according to the Duelfer report, as opposed to many American companies.


11 posted on 11/20/2004 12:49:31 PM PST by muib
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To: Norman Bates; evad

Sorry, but I disagree that the opposing countries forced the US to wage the war. It was rather you feeling the need to act, but that´s nothing you can blame the governments of other countries for. They said - for economic (France, Russia) or political (Germany) reasons - "No" and you ran into combat. There was no delay because of the discussions in NY, there´s is no blame for the start of the war for the opportunists.

And, Norman, please explain your claim that bribe money from the axis of weasels has been used by terrorists in Iraq.

Evad, I think the war was necessary, but I respect that others are isolationists and refuse to liberate others. Also, it is not France, Germany or the UN who are responsible for the deads in Iraq, but definitely it´s the terrorists who actually committ crimes. You also don´t say that the girl being raped is responsible for it, do you?


12 posted on 11/20/2004 12:55:24 PM PST by Michael81Dus
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To: muib

Thanks for your support of truth. It´s so easy to add Germany to France & the UN, given it´s opposition of the war - even though the reasons were completely different. In France and Russia, there were economic interests, in Germany, Schröder seeked re-election and would have never got it if he supported the war.


13 posted on 11/20/2004 12:57:11 PM PST by Michael81Dus
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To: Americanwolf
I've been saying the same thing since before Operation Freedom began.

I would call the White House and tell them that we could place the death of every American soldier at the feet of france, Russia, China and the U.N.

14 posted on 11/20/2004 1:33:39 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Michael81Dus

In the sense that they propped up Saddam during the 90s and up until 2003, yes they DID "force" us to go to war.

The "reasons" you cite by the opposition to the war are treacherous reasons considering what was at stake and what those "financial reasons" actually were. Giving into that sort of appeasement is the same reason why the U.S. and its allies had to confront the Nazis in WWII. Oh and Schröder's "political" reasons were hardly honorable considering what was at stake.

"Ran into combat"? Not to my mind. Should we have waited for the appeasers to come around instead??


15 posted on 11/20/2004 1:35:10 PM PST by Norman Bates (Usama Bin Laden, 1957-2005)
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To: Michael81Dus
I disagree.

If the world would have stood united against Saddam things may have been different.

We know now why they didn't want the war.....MONEY!!!

16 posted on 11/20/2004 1:35:48 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Michael81Dus
You also don´t say that the girl being raped is responsible for it, do you?

Of course not but the analogy is apples and oranges.

What I say is that the US acted out of self defense in fighting a terrorist enemy that plagues everyone. In doing so you would think her "allies" would help, as did the British, but instead they acted as a hinderance. Those allies are specifically the French and German governments of whom I have the utmost distain and distrust.

It wouldn't be as bad if these governments had acted out of their own national interests but instead they acted out of greed, pure and simple greed.

Incidentally, out of the two, the most disappointing was the German government. The French, well, they're just acting French and doing what they always do. But I actually expected better from the Germans.

17 posted on 11/20/2004 2:58:22 PM PST by evad (The existence of Israel would not pass JF'nK's Global Test)
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To: Michael81Dus
No way. You have the command over these men and women wearing the US patch, and you are responsible for their actions. For Germany, I refuse any responsibility for what happened in Iraq since March 2003. Period

Just out of curiosity, did you ever get a chance to read Bill Gertz's book, Treachery?

18 posted on 11/20/2004 3:00:03 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: Michael81Dus
Schröder seeked re-election and would have never got it if he supported the war.

In your own way Michael you have arrived at the truth with that statement.

You have exposed the difference between a leader who follows conviction and principle and a slimy politician who only acts in his self interest, aka greed.

Like I said, the most disappointing ally was the German ally.

19 posted on 11/20/2004 3:08:39 PM PST by evad (The existence of Israel would not pass JF'nK's Global Test)
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To: pbrown

please specify in regard to Germany.


20 posted on 11/21/2004 1:31:17 AM PST by Michael81Dus
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