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To: TopQuark
And David Drier had the audacity to say people were being "re-employed" because most were now selling on eBay!

How many people aren't showing on the unemployment rolls? The reason the President wants this immigration bill is so employers can import cheaper labpr. I voted for the President, but I'm not going to be a Stepford when it comes to reality.

144 posted on 11/24/2004 12:27:08 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn
How many people aren't showing on the unemployment rolls?

Many. Great many of then start their own businesses --- and not only on eBay. Some others retire a bit earlier than they have planned. What's wrong with either? They are not on welfare, they have what to eat.

And, what is the alternative? If a person was making $50,000 a year and now --- because (s)he chose not to broaden his/her skills in the past, not to continue to improve --- gets only $30,000 in some other job --- should the rest of us make up the difference? Why? Since when has job become a welfare payment, Ms. Socialist?

The reason the President wants this immigration bill is so employers can import cheaper labpr. I don't know: unlike you, I've never spoken with the President. I don't know what is on his mind and only know what he says in public. To the best of my knowledge, he never said that he wants cheap labor.

Next, which emloyess want that cheap labor? Construction and lawn care? Certainly not Intel or IBM, certainly not any of the law firms, school districts, etc.

Further, who are "employers?" As many so-called conservatives, you are spewing anti-corporate sentiment: it's evil corporatons that put pressure on the president through lobbying. Poor President indeed: according to the Leftists, it is the Jewish lobby that made him go into Iraq, and the corporate lobby makes him root for illegal immigration. Poor guy: he is being swindled on all sides.

The truth is employers are interested in cheaper labor because those who hired them want profits. And those who hired them --- owners of the corporate America --- are most Americans. You, if you have anything in a 401 plan. Your mother and father, if when retired they put their savings into mutual funds. Your brother and sister, if the companies they work for have retirement funds. That is who benefits from cheaper labor and this is who puts pressure on the spooky corporations.

Like you I am vehemently opposed to illegal immigration. Whatever the benefits to the nongovernmental segment of the economy, they are more than offset by the drain on the services provided by the government, hence on us who pay for them through taxes. I too am deeply disappointed that Bush did not do anything so far to deal with the issue. But, as you can see and in contrast to yours, my reasons for this position have nothing to do with the socialist, anti-corporate propaganda that you have accepted.

I voted for the President, but I'm not going to be a Stepford when it comes to reality.

I respect you for that position. But, when it comes to reality, movies are not the best source of benchmarks.

152 posted on 11/24/2004 3:01:53 PM PST by TopQuark
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