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To: Age of Reason
We simply send the half of America having IQ's under 100, to MIT to become tech workers, and problem solved?

Thanks for making the point that I've tried to make countless times to no avail. They patently ignore it; while in the same breath demeaning American citizens as "stupid and lazy."

I've worked as an exec in manufacturing; I know the type of person who holds these jobs. Many have limitations, either socially or intellectually.

We end up picking up the tab for the unemployed; or the difference in the tab from someone who had a decent paying job, who is now working for $6.00/hr at McDonald's. Not to mention the fact that some of them end up as CNA's taking care of Grandma at the home...with the increase in abuse and neglect that has already been noticeable here in a state with a large elderly population.

But, again, you are tilting at windmills; these people don't have any interest in hearing you so long as their stocks continue to increase in value. They have been "educated stupid."

111 posted on 11/21/2004 11:05:30 PM PST by garandgal
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To: garandgal
You should try some hyperbole in you future posts, it would really drive your points home a million times better. "Sky is falling" rhetoric always goes over extremely well with some hyperbole.
112 posted on 11/22/2004 5:14:34 AM PST by LowCountryJoe (Willie Green after a chemical attack would make an excellent selective unmasking candidate.)
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To: garandgal

Thank you.

And I didn't even mention the people who are happiest working with their hands and miserable doing an information-age job--even though they have more than enough intelligence to do it.


115 posted on 11/22/2004 10:55:34 AM PST by Age of Reason
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To: garandgal
They patently ignore it; while in the same breath demeaning American citizens as "stupid and lazy."

This is both a a patent lie and a misunderstanding on your part: the lie is in that nobody ignores this issue,, and misunderstanding concerns what "they" say.

American citizens are not stupid and lazy: everybody knows that they are the most productive in the world and known also as most ingenious.

The problem related to what you say, and misunderstood by you, is a recent one. It concerns with the deterioration of our education, which impedes further growth of productivity. It is true that a huge percentage of people are functionally illiterate. And, the more educated ones lack breadth of knowledge, which is needed precisely at the turning points and economic upheavals.

All this is far from calling someone stupid and lazy.

Most importantly, the issue is not whether people with low productivity deserve a wage: the question is what that wage is. The point being made, and apparently misunderstood by you as well, is that you cannot give to people what you don't have; to consume, the product must be produced first. In other words, you only consumer what is commensurate with your productivity. When productivity falls, or stagnates, the consumption falls and respectively stagnates as well. That's all.

I've worked as an exec in manufacturing; I know the type of person who holds these jobs. Many have limitations, either socially or intellectually.

We all do. But this does not entitle us to whine about our wages.

We end up picking up the tab for the unemployed;

We always did: before the government did that, we did it through churches and synagogues.

And there are no more unemployed now than in the best times. What else do you want? You follow the "logic" of a typical liberal: escaping facts and reality --- oh, how imperfect they are! --- and invent a utopia.

or the difference in the tab from someone who had a decent paying job, who is now working for $6.00/hr at McDonald's. Only a socialist knows what a "decent"-paying job is. Apparently you are one of them.

And, almost nobody goes from a "decent-paying" job to McDonnalds. When (s)he does, it is often the person's fault. The present-day economy, even more so than before, requires us to grow constantly. Did that person take a course at night? Asked management to be sent to a workshop? Read the latest trade journals? Tries otherwise to diversify skills? Very few people that do that end up at McDonald's, and those that do so, work in management.

One of the problems we have is that times were too good: a two-decades long continuing growth of the economy and of the stock market in particular. This, coupled with deterioration in parenting and religion, led people to unreasonable expectations --- including an entitlement to a job and the current wage. As if your wages are supposed to go only higher. And when they don't, someone must be at fault.

We Americans are not stupid and laze but have become a nation of whiners. Look at yourself: you are here, on a conservative board, and yet do not even notice that you are spewing socialist propaganda --- "decent" wages, unemployment, etc. And this is form an executive of a capitalist enterprise.

You should've voted for Kerry --- HE HAS A PLAN.

with the increase in abuse and neglect that has already been noticeable here in a state with a large elderly population.

Right. As if neglect and abuse stem from poverty rather than deterioration of morals. Do you even have a clue that this is straight from the books, now so unpopular in the former Soviet Union, on what they used to call Scientific Communism?

Thank you Ms. Executive.

But, again, you are tilting at windmills; I don't know, it seems to me that it is you who passes wind here.

these people don't have any interest in hearing you so long as their stocks continue to increase in value.

What a scummy thing to say. And silly too: you don't know about people's motives, only about their actions. This, Ms. Executive, you should've learned in Organizational Behavior 101 (or even Marketing 101, if it were taught right).

But this tells us a great deal about you: only small people expect that others to be small and ill-minded.

And this is simply They have been "educated stupid." Coming from you this is hardly an insult --- it's a joke.

116 posted on 11/22/2004 11:55:30 AM PST by TopQuark
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