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To: ForGod'sSake

I didn't get anything new from it. And to claim, as others have done, that the MSM no longer control the agenda--is wishful thinking at best.

The Lib/Dem cabal still control the news media at all levels, the bureaucries at all levels, academia at all levels, the unions, the publishing houses, the museums, art gallaries, theaters, movie screens...

Yes, the internet and talk radio are a new outlet. But even there the DEM/LIBS are making strides. In fact, the internet is much more liberal than it ever has been before, and getting worse.

And truth be told this site--what does it post? It posts material 99% of the time from the MSM or the other instituttions I have enumerated which are still in the control of the liberals. We still are forced to see the world through that prism.

I hope that the internet will prove to be a corrective--a fact checker--for the MSM and the rest of our culture. But it is only as good as its fact-checkers. And already the MSM is doing its level best to discredit its accuracy (which isn't too hard to do actually) by trotting out the Wonkette (who is of course a lib) to blame for the false exit polls.

So the death of the MSM is greatly exaggerated. And like the rest of the points in the article, it has been claimed to be dead or dying for years.

But speaking of Orwellian, I've found the responses to my posts to be disturbingly Orwellian. But I'm as tired of talking about that as everyone else is.


164 posted on 11/21/2004 6:37:08 PM PST by JehngisKahn
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To: JehngisKahn
In fact, the internet is much more liberal than it ever has been before, and getting worse.

One toke over the line, Sweet Jesus, one toke over the line.

JK sitting there at the keyboard, one toke over the line.

172 posted on 11/21/2004 6:45:34 PM PST by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: JehngisKahn
And truth be told this site--what does it post? It posts material 99% of the time from the MSM or the other instituttions I have enumerated which are still in the control of the liberals. We still are forced to see the world through that prism.

Granted, the "news" is still generated mostly by "news" people. There are notable exceptions however that I'm sure you're familiar with. The prism you refer to give us a chance to deconstruct the "news". That in itself is a worthy cause. The subtleties the MSM uses are not lost on most of us on FR. WE have their number.

Convinving your average couch patatoe of that simple fact is a trick. They honestly don't want to hear it. Their cozy little world becomes less cozy; they would actually have to think about this problem; then might actually, in good conscience, have to do something about it. Like I've told others, who might accept this idea, when they ask what to do with this newfound information, "Spread the word". We're being lied to and it gives me a case of the red a$$.

And like the rest of the points in the article, it has been claimed to be dead or dying for years.

I submit they're dying. Most of what I've heard and read over the last few years doesn't bode well for the MSM. You disagree?

FGS

181 posted on 11/21/2004 7:01:05 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: JehngisKahn; All

Do you call this one? FOAD. Guys like you said it to them.


183 posted on 11/21/2004 7:02:32 PM PST by JLO
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