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Ural Farmers Got Milk Gene First?
Science Magazine ^ | 2004-11-19 | Jocelyn Kaiser

Posted on 11/20/2004 6:42:15 AM PST by Lessismore

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1 posted on 11/20/2004 6:42:15 AM PST by Lessismore
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To: blam

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2 posted on 11/20/2004 7:06:13 AM PST by Lessismore
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To: Lessismore

Okay, who's Gene and why are the Ural farmers trying to milk him?


3 posted on 11/20/2004 7:07:20 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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"The findings support the somewhat controversial theory that nomadic herders known as Kurgans expanded into Europe from the southern Urals 4500 to 3500 years ago, bringing Indo-European languages with them, according to Peltonen."

Were they led by some huge dude with black armor, deep voice, and never seemed to die?

4 posted on 11/20/2004 7:20:33 AM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: Lessismore

Does this mean I can forget about the words of a psychiatrist, who told me, 30 years ago, that I couldn't digest milk after childhood because I had "issues" with my mother?


5 posted on 11/20/2004 7:31:17 AM PST by syriacus (Who wanted Margaret Hassan murdered? What did she know about the oil-for-food scandal/)
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and - so? why? what? I am 53 and I STILL drink milk - all my cats up until they died at 18 & 20 drank milk - my dogs (pit bulls) like milk.

Is this just more PETA / ELF / ALF / ASPCA leftist gibberish in line with their agenda to make mankind the lesser species?


6 posted on 11/20/2004 7:36:58 AM PST by steplock (http://www.outoftimeradio.org)
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To: Lessismore

Good article, thanks. How did your intrests on Dauphin Island fare during the hurricane?


7 posted on 11/20/2004 7:47:22 AM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv; Varda

GGG Ping.


8 posted on 11/20/2004 7:48:01 AM PST by blam
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Is this just more PETA / ELF / ALF / ASPCA leftist gibberish in line with their agenda to make mankind the lesser species?

What on earth are you talking about? Did you actually read the article?

You did know there were billions of people that can't drink milk as adults, didn't you?

9 posted on 11/20/2004 8:04:51 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SunkenCiv; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; 4ConservativeJustices; ...
I'm sending this to the list, but please do drink it with a grain of salt.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on, off, or alter the "Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list --
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10 posted on 11/20/2004 8:16:31 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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"Billions"? Hogwash.


11 posted on 11/20/2004 8:18:20 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: Strategerist; blam; SunkenCiv
Did you know there are millions that can't handle wheat:

Wheat - the new red meat

12 posted on 11/20/2004 8:24:00 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Strategerist
billions of people that can't drink milk as adults, didn't you?

Of COURSE they can drink milk. Milk costs good money and we're NOT pouring it down the drain. They can darn well sit there until they have finished their milk. And if they don't there'll be no dessert.

13 posted on 11/20/2004 8:26:28 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (Santorum 2008)
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To: PatrickHenry; jennyp; aculeus

Gene Ping


14 posted on 11/20/2004 8:26:35 AM PST by Pharmboy (Listen...you can still hear the old media sobbing.)
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To: syriacus
Does this mean I can forget about the words of a psychiatrist, who told me, 30 years ago, that I couldn't digest milk after childhood because I had "issues" with my mother?

I believe you. Our most over-rated profession.

15 posted on 11/20/2004 8:47:55 AM PST by aculeus
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To: SunkenCiv

Chinese and other Asians (Japanese, Vietnamese) can't drink milk. Black Africans can't drink milk. Native Americans can't drink milk.

Plenty of people of European ancestry can't drink milk, either. My husband can't, and neither can my younger son. My mother can't drink milk, but my father can.

My older son and I both love milk. Between us we drink about two gallons a week. Not to mention yogurt, ice cream and cheese, which are more digestible for the lactose intolerant.


16 posted on 11/20/2004 9:12:23 AM PST by CobaltBlue
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To: Pharmboy; Junior; VadeRetro; longshadow

Thanks for the ping. It's interesting, but this looks like routine genetics, so I suspect it won't get the evolution crowd very worked up.


17 posted on 11/20/2004 9:13:51 AM PST by PatrickHenry (The all-new List-O-Links for evolution threads is now in my freeper homepage.)
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To: Lessismore

BTTT


18 posted on 11/20/2004 9:19:34 AM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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Sob...I still remember missing recess, sitting in the cafeteria, because I refused to drink my milk! I knew if I drank it, there would be a mess to clean up later. I have the strongest bones in the world...and I never drank milk!


19 posted on 11/20/2004 9:23:22 AM PST by chalkfarmer
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To: PatrickHenry

The ability to feed infants cow's milk, mare's milk, goat's milk or sheep's milk after their mother died or was too ill to produce milk must have contributed to the spread of the lactose tolerance gene.

I recall at least one infant burial among the Xinjiang Caucasian mummies where a leather "baby bottle" made out of (if I recall correctly) a goat's nipple was buried with the child.

Actually, this might explain, in part, why Causasians are so much taller than Asians and most Africans -- milk in the diet makes strong bones. The Masai, who are extremely tall Africans, also drink milk.

So, I think this is pertinent to evolution.

My impression is that for most creationists, there are two things about evolutionary theor that upsets them - first, they object to the theory that life appeared out of nowhere ("cosmic soup"), which really has nothing to do with evolutionary theory per se, and they object to the theory that evolution is the result solely of random events, which really has little to do with evolutionary theory, either.

I posit that if these concepts were not taught as part of evolution, the ruckus would die down. JMHO.


20 posted on 11/20/2004 9:30:06 AM PST by CobaltBlue
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