Schroeder calls on Muslims to better integrate in Germany

Agence France Presse ^ | November 19, 2004

[Caipirabob]

The Germans have been known to endorse extreme right wing politician making loud speeches on occasion....LOL

The Nazis were National Socialists. Extreme left.

[America1stParty]

Ed Koch is dispensing the "Hillary '08" Kool-Aid faster than a fire hydrant on the 4th of July at a County Fair.

That witch is the kind of personality in a time of crisis that can quickly make a socialist vision a Communist nightmare for America.

This can not happen. The Republican Party does NOT have to go left to defeat her. In fact, IMO, that strategy would play into the Progressive's hands. JMO.

[nothernlights]

Hitler was a socialist in name only.He was a dictator very much supported by the private military industrialist forces of Germany.

[America1stParty]

See 22. Does that seem logical?

[ConservativeStatement]

He was one-third "Axis of Weasel" per the New York Post many moons ago, was he not (with France and Russia???)?

[26lemoncharlie]

They start there Crap here ... They should be allowed to leave... Verticle or Horizontal ......

[America1stParty]

Hitler, de facto, nationalized all industry in Germany, including his American Big Corporate Allies. He was that nationalist, Populist, tyrant in Socialist-promises that appealed to the war-weary and soul-sucked Germans that were in dire economic jeopardy. IMO.

[Mark17]

The Germans have been known to endorse extreme right wing politician making loud speeches on occasion....LOL

Hitler was exteme left, not extreme right. To say he was extreme right, is to buy into Democrat propaganda.

[Baraonda]

>>Schroeder warned of a "conflict of cultures" and says Muslims "must clearly and without misunderstanding demonstrate that they accept our legal order and democratic rules."<<

Dream on, Gerhard!

They're muslimes first AND intent on replacing our European/Christian culture with their moon-god professing sub-culture.

[America1stParty]

You make it sound like a bad thing. ;)

[Caipirabob]

The Republican Party does NOT have to go left to defeat her. In fact, IMO, that strategy would play into the Progressive's hands. JMO.

I have to agree 100%. We won this by staying the course and playing to our core base. We even gained by it. It will be even better if we hold fast.

[nothernlights]

I really don't want to debate this,because I don't care but he didn't nationalise many corporations and many of Nazi Germany industrial mega companies are still around today.

[Travis McGee]

Schroeder calls on vipers to better integrate in hen house.

[willyboyishere]

Something must be vibrating a little too insistently in the German psyche, some ancestral/historical feeling is stirring and it's uncomfortable: the Germans may have discovered that perhaps they have allowed a new version of the Nazis to grow in their midst, and they themselves are the Jews.

[America1stParty]

I believe it is America's best interests to anticipate Hillary as the '08 Democratic Presidential Nominee.

The whole Democratic machine, all of their behavior; the press adoration, Hillary's immediate evangelical-moderation, etc.

That, combined with the Clinton components moving around their different political apparatuses like interchangeable campaing parts, all leads me to believe that we will see a Compassionate 'Conservativism' from the Left which, under forseeable circumstances, could make Hillary very formidable for any Republican challenger. I think most of us understand what Mr. Bill and the Witch have in mind. JMO.

[Caipirabob]

The Myth that the Nazis are "Right Wing" is being perpetuated by Leftists who want to label conservatives as such. The fact that they were supported by their industrial base is irrelevant. Look at how our modern airlines embraced the opportunity to dump the expense of security on the government after 9/11. Corporations in 1940's Germany looked at their bottom line, too. Hitler made promises, he gained favor. Still, their actions were not in any way consistent with conservative policy. It simply isn't true.

I'm not trying to argue, I'm attempting to help kill a myth perpetuated by liberals. Damn all socialists...

Here is an analysis that nicely summarizes the principles of National Socialist Policies entitled appropriately Those Damn Nazis"

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Socialism will become reality when the Fatherland is free.

Why Are We Socialists?

We are socialists because we see in socialism, that is the union of all citizens, the only chance to maintain our racial inheritance and to regain our political freedom and renew our German state.

Socialism is the doctrine of liberation for the working class. It promotes the rise of the fourth class and its incorporation in the political organism of our Fatherland, and is inextricably bound to breaking the present slavery and the regaining of German freedom. Socialism therefore is not merely a matter of the oppressed class, but a matter for everyone, for freeing the German people from slavery is the goal of contemporary policy. Socialism gains its true form only through a total combat brotherhood with the forward-striving energies of a newly awakened nationalism. Without nationalism it is nothing, a phantom, a mere theory, a castle in the sky, a book. With it it is everything, the future, freedom, the fatherland!

The sin of liberal thinking was to overlook socialism's nation-building strengths, thereby allowing its energies to go in anti-national directions. The sin of Marxism was to degrade socialism into a question of wages and the stomach, putting it in conflict with the state and its national existence. An understanding of both these facts leads us to a new sense of socialism, which sees its nature as nationalistic, state-building, liberating and constructive.

The bourgeois is about to leave the historical stage. In its place will come the class of productive workers, the working class, that has been up until today oppressed. It is beginning to fulfill its political mission. It is involved in a hard and bitter struggle for political power as it seeks to become part of the national organism. The battle began in the economic realm; it will finish in the political. It is not merely a matter of pay, not only a matter of the number of hours worked in a day — though we may never forget that these are an essential, perhaps even the most significant part of the socialist platform — but it is much more a matter of incorporating a powerful and responsible class in the state, perhaps even to make it the dominant force in the future politics of the fatherland. The bourgeois does not want to recognize the strength of the working class. Marxism has forced it into a straitjacket that will ruin it. While the working class gradually disintegrates in the Marxist front, bleeding itself dry, the bourgeois and Marxism have agreed on the general lines of capitalism, and see their task now to protect and defend it in various ways, often concealed.

We are socialists because we see the social question as a matter of necessity and justice for the very existence of a state for our people, not a question of cheap pity or insulting sentimentality. The worker has a claim to a living standard that corresponds to what he produces. We have no intention of begging for that right. Incorporating him in the state organism is not only a critical matter for him, but for the whole nation. The question is larger than the eight-hour day. It is a matter of forming a new state consciousness that includes every productive citizen. Since the political powers of the day are neither willing nor able to create such a situation, socialism must be fought for. It is a fighting slogan both inwardly and outwardly. It is aimed domestically at the bourgeois parties and Marxism at the same time, because both are sworn enemies of the coming workers' state. It is directed abroad at all powers that threaten our national existence and thereby the possibility of the coming socialist national state.

[TheCrusader]

"Have you seen what is going on in Thailand?"

and China

[mlocher]

it used to be that when germany wanted to improve its assimilation process, it simply invaded a nearby neighbor. my how things have changed.

[ConservativeStatement]

Here is a story describing what I meant about the Thai Queen:


http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/BKK8348.htm

Queen urges Thais to help govt fight Muslim unrest
17 Nov 2004 02:58:50 GMT

Source: Reuters

BANGKOK, Nov 17 (Reuters) - Thailand's revered Queen Sirikit has urged all Thais to work with the government in its fight against the violence in the country's largely Muslim south, where almost 500 people have been killed since January.

"Please don't dump everything on the government. Every Thai has a duty to work for the country," the 72-year-old queen told an audience of 930 people led by Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra, military brass, lawmakers and journalists.

Thailand's constitutional monarchy has few formal powers but the reverence in which the royal family is held means their rare comments on politics must be heeded.

"I would like to ask everyone here to help your Thai citizens who are clean, honest, but couldn't make a living because their lives have been under threat," Sirikit said in a 50-minute address televised late on Tuesday.

Relating gruesome incidents she had been told by relatives of those killed in the violence, Sirikit asked human rights advocates critical of the government to think of the rights of innocent people killed by militants.

"I would like to tell those human rights advocates that those people did not do anything wrong. They should have had rights in their lives to make an honest living," she said.

Queen Sirikit said she had asked the southern army commander to train female Buddhist Thais to use guns and she herself would learn soon.

"I promise that at the age of 72, I will learn how to shoot guns without using my glasses," she said.

Saying Muslims in the region she had known for 30 years were good people, the Queen said she was worried about the security of Thai Buddhists who make up of 20 percent of the 1.8 million population in the three southernmost provinces.

"I don't know where we would evacuate 300,000 Thais, but we can't allow them to be killed daily like this," she said.

[mlocher]

Hitler was a socialist in name only.He was a dictator very much supported by the private military industrialist forces of Germany.

you are right. socialism brought him to power with some serious not so covert actions, but imperialism was his ultimate goal, playing on the sympathies of nationalism that were running high in the country at the time. and of course, every social problem had its victim to blame, causing polarization (a technigue clinton used pretty effectively without quite as much of the overt violence.)