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Envoy: We'll Deal With Marine
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Posted on 11/19/2004 7:35:25 PM PST by Former Military Chick

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To: Former Military Chick
Video of the Shooting (graphic content)
21 posted on 11/19/2004 8:26:07 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: Spanaway Lori
Nope the second one is the right link, If you don't trust it just cut and paste:

http://www.petitiononline.com/as123/petition.html

22 posted on 11/19/2004 8:32:48 PM PST by skikvt
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To: Former Military Chick

Can anybody put up a GOOD link, whereby we can put in a word of support for this guy? Skikvt's link is a bad place to go, unless you want unknowns looking into your computer.


23 posted on 11/19/2004 8:33:44 PM PST by Just Lori (Before you can win the peace, you have to win the WAR!!!)
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To: Former Military Chick

if this Marine goes down - so does Bush. Bush's legacy rides totally on the events in iraq - if it implodes, and if they rake this marine over the coals as part of it, support for Bush in this iraq effort from the base, is going to collapse.


24 posted on 11/19/2004 8:35:01 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Former Military Chick

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1283861/posts

More of the story......


25 posted on 11/19/2004 8:37:33 PM PST by Just Lori (Before you can win the peace, you have to win the WAR!!!)
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To: Former Military Chick
A Marine who killed an unarmed wounded Iraqi

Every article about this says that.

At this time that is total BS.

That traitor Sites started that without even knowing if the terrorist was alive or wounded.

ANYBODY that chose to stay in that city what with the warnings given ahead of time, are seen as the enemy.

And they do NOT legally have the Geneva Convention behind them. If they are there, and not part of an organized fighting force, they are there to be killed. Period. Their choice, they made it.

26 posted on 11/19/2004 8:38:07 PM PST by Syncro
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To: goodnesswins

HUH? I found NO online petition for MARINE at that site.....that's another discussion website as near as I can tell.....


Damned if they do, Dead if they don't...

In their latest campaign to eradicate Jihadi vermin on the Iraqi warfront with Jihadistan, U.S. Marines and Army infantry have, in the last two weeks, purged Fallujah of more than 5,000 terrorist insurgents who were dug in throughout the city. The combat has been fierce.

A week into the Fallujah operation, an NBC photographer embedded with the 3rd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment, recorded video of a young combat-hardened Marine entering a room in a mosque where he found several insurgents on the floor under covers. Unable to determine if these enemy combatants were injured, dead or preparing to ambush his unit, the Marine raised his rifle in preparation to defend himself and his fellow Marines. When he detected movement from one of the combatants, the Marine yelled, "He's (expletive) faking he's dead! He's faking he's (expletive) dead!" and killed the Jihadi -- and that is where this story should have ended.

As it turned out, however, the Jihadi had been wounded the day before and the NBC photographer, Kevin Sites (whose photographs are featured on many anti-war Website), stepped up to get his 15 seconds of fame. Sites turned the video over to his network, telling them that he did not think the Jihadi was a threat, and within 24 hours, Lefty lynch mobs were forming to hang themselves a Marine.

Notably, the loudest protests of "war crimes" were from those who have never been closer to combat than the distance between their living-room lounge chairs and TVs. (Of course, it is a war crime to store weapons in a mosque as was documented, but the Lefties are not protesting that.) Indeed, the Leftmedia's mindless promotion of this video (as with the Abu Ghraib feeding frenzy: see -- http://FederalistPatriot.US/alexander/edition.asp?id=258) was tantamount to shaking a hornet's nest -- making the task of our fighting forces in Fallujah and elsewhere in the region all the more difficult. Actions have consequences, and the exploitation of this video empowered Jihadis in the region -- in effect, making life very difficult for our Armed Forces.

But what you're not hearing from NBC's Tom Brokaw or any other Leftmedia talkingheads in their wholesale condemnation of this incident is that Jihadis (knowing that U.S. military personnel have the decency to tend to wounded enemy combatants) have routinely booby-trapped the bodies of dead insurgents. In fact, one member of the Marine squad now being scrutinized was killed (and five others wounded) when attempting to check on a wounded Jihadi only days earlier. In addition, the Marine now being questioned for killing this wounded Jihadi suffered a wound to his face a day earlier when an injured Jihadi fired on him.

These facts notwithstanding, the Left and their media minions have now made this young Marine their poster boy for U.S. atrocities. Here, we would remind these hypocrites that a few short weeks ago, they were doing all in their power to support John F. Kerry's campaign for the most powerful office in the world. This would be the same JFK who received a Silver Star (with and erroneous "V") for chasing a wounded Vietcong combatant (described as a young boy in a loin cloth) around a hutch and shooting him in the back.

While we have strenuously questioned the merits of John Kerry's Silver Star for this action, we have never questioned his decision to kill this VC enemy, whom he judged to be a threat to his boat crew. By the Kerry standard, the young Marine in question should get a Silver Star. (Of course, enlisted personnel really have to do something spectacular to pin one of those on.)

Now that the Left is once again decrying military actions to liberate Iraq, please take a moment and join more than 115,000 grateful Americans who have already signed An Open Letter in Support of America's Armed Forces in support of our Patriots in uniform. These American Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, Marines and Coast Guardsmen have plowed the ground for liberty while protecting their countrymen back home. We remain the proud and the free because they have stood bravely in harm's way and remain on post today.

For this, we, the American People, offer our heartfelt thanks. Please support our troops -- let your voice be heard! Join fellow Patriots on the front lines in defense of our liberty and national sovereignty. Link to -- http://PatriotPetitions.US/USMIL
(If you don't have Web access, please send a blank e-mail to:
Each e-mail sent to this address will be counted as one signature for the petition.)

Memo to the Pentagon: Leave the reporters embedded, but have them check their cameras in the rear. Otherwise, the resulting Leftist hype will continue to jeopardize our mission -- and jeopardize the lives of American military personnel.



27 posted on 11/19/2004 8:38:10 PM PST by danamco
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To: Spanaway Lori

SEE the LINK, CUT AND PASTE: http://www.petitiononline.com/as123/petition.html


28 posted on 11/19/2004 8:38:51 PM PST by skikvt
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To: oceanview

That is their plan.

Sites is the new John Kerry.

Arrest Kerry and Sites.


29 posted on 11/19/2004 8:39:14 PM PST by Syncro
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To: oceanview

if this Marine goes down - so does Bush. Bush's legacy rides totally on the events in iraq - if it implodes, and if they rake this marine over the coals as part of it, support for Bush in this iraq effort from the base, is going to collapse.


Yeah, rite. ONE MARINE is going to bring support for Bush down? I thought Abu Ghirab was supposed to do that. Ain't happenin'! The maindream media, however, is another question!


30 posted on 11/19/2004 8:40:22 PM PST by Just Lori (Before you can win the peace, you have to win the WAR!!!)
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To: Syncro

the MSM and the left are doing what we all expect. they hate the military, so why should we expect anything different.

I watching to see what the administration does. they are in control of this situation, what happens to this Marine.


31 posted on 11/19/2004 8:41:11 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Spanaway Lori

Abu Ghraib was not legitimate military activity, you can have an opinion as to how "bad" you felt it was - but no one excused it totally.

this situation with the Marine is different. These guys are fighting house to house, dying, getting limbs blown off, because we didn't want to use air power and armor in Fallujah - we sent them house to house. And now they have to be court marshalled for stuff like this? Last time I looked, Bush was just re-elected commander in chief - so its on him.


32 posted on 11/19/2004 8:45:22 PM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview

Okay, from listening to certain folks on this post, it sounds like CBS, NBC, and Michael Moore all wrapped into one giant fishwrap! Just roll over and give yourselves up for sacrifice, why don't you?


33 posted on 11/19/2004 8:45:56 PM PST by Just Lori (Before you can win the peace, you have to win the WAR!!!)
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To: oceanview

Abu Ghraib was not legitimate military activity, you can have an opinion as to how "bad" you felt it was - but no one excused it totally.

this situation with the Marine is different. These guys are fighting house to house, dying, getting limbs blown off, because we didn't want to use air power and armor in Fallujah - we sent them house to house. And now they have to be court marshalled for stuff like this? Last time I looked, Bush was just re-elected commander in chief - so its on him.



That's a bunch of crap, and you know it!


34 posted on 11/19/2004 8:49:35 PM PST by Just Lori (Before you can win the peace, you have to win the WAR!!!)
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To: Spanaway Lori

I think you are missing my point.

what the MSM does is meaningless to me, and its meaningless to just about every person who voted for Bush. if the MSM was in control, Kerry would be president-elect right now.


35 posted on 11/19/2004 8:49:49 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Spanaway Lori

exactly what is "a bunch of crap"? that these marines aren't going house to house, taking KIA and serious injuries, booby traps everywhere.


36 posted on 11/19/2004 8:51:58 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Spanaway Lori

Last time I looked, Bush was just re-elected commander in chief - so its on him.



Only in the eyes of the MSM, and the liberals who want to turn this one small occurence into something it is NOT!


37 posted on 11/19/2004 8:55:27 PM PST by Just Lori (Before you can win the peace, you have to win the WAR!!!)
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To: Spanaway Lori

we agree on that - I think we are talking past each other.

all I am saying is, the MSM is behaving as we expect - we aren't listening to them, but the important thing is - is the administration? because what happens to this marine is in their hands. Rumsfeld should already have voiced "benefit of the doubt" support for him.


38 posted on 11/19/2004 8:58:36 PM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview

I'll try one last time. This Marine was doing what he felt was necessary to save his life, and those of the men around him. It's NOT G.W. Bush's fault that an "unarmed insurgent" was killed. Unarmed or not, he was THERE! It's kill or be killed, and I am sick to death of the media and anybody else out there attacking our troops for doing a damn good job in a very bad place amoung people who would slash the throat of their own mother or child to gain favor with terrorist vermin.


39 posted on 11/19/2004 8:59:42 PM PST by Just Lori (Before you can win the peace, you have to win the WAR!!!)
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To: oceanview

Did you seee the video yet ? It looks like self defense to me. (What a frigging joke, self defense in a war zone)


40 posted on 11/19/2004 9:00:11 PM PST by John Lenin
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