Posted on 11/19/2004 11:55:40 AM PST by newsgatherer
President George W. Bush won re-election because, in part, twenty-two percent of the voters listed moral values as their number one concern. Most of the voters decided that they did not want a liberal Democrat sitting in the White House at this time. My vote was not that inclusive and it had little to do with what is right or wrong with this nation. I am the eternal optimist who believes that whatever is wrong, if anything, will right itself in due time. No. My vote for President Bush was nearly one hundred percent concerned with who might appoint new justices to the Supreme Court. I am also pragmatic enough to realize that President Bush will be gone in 2008 along with his agenda. I suspect that Hillary Clinton will capture the Democratic nomination in 2008. Iowa and New Hampshire are rigged to give her that honor. I also suspect that Senator Clinton will prove a formidable opponent to whoever runs on the Republican ticket because she not only is well known but she will also have the wealth of the liberal left, the liberal media, Hollywood and numerous liberal notables working and speaking on her behalf. So much of what President Bush accomplishes in the next four years may well be compromised by a liberal Democrat if she is elected.
If President Bush is to leave a lasting legacy, it must...
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Actually, Deport has the figures (from Illinois) which illustrate the stark truth that it was the liberal, pro-abort "Obama" constituents (as opposed to Keyes-minded moralists) which put Bush over the top in the truly critical states.
Who cares why? Shut up about it. It's over.
Onward to 2008.
That is how I see it too. No one segment made a difference.
President Bush (Ah, what a beautiful sound) won the election because the Democrats put a traitorous war criminal who just so happens to be the most liberal member of the Senate up against him. The question remains as to how badly Bush would have defeated a serious candidate.
In the end George Bush got over 61 Million votes. And I'm sure there are 61 Million reasons why...
agreed.
Kerry won Illinois. How could pro-Obama, anti-Keyes voters help Bush win in Ohio and Florida??
I tink I would disagree. Many pro-life Christians did not vote for President Bush in 2000, but did in 2004. His pro-life positons were not lost on many. Als, as Larry points out, concerns about the SJC brought more than a few out.
Good point.
Only when the Lord returns. As a Christian, Larry should know this. The righteousness pendulum does swing back and forth, but evil is evil, and has not been completely eradicated since the flood. I'm on the side that believes there are some people who have nothing but evil in them, and either won't or can't be changed until they have their own face-to-face with Jesus. I could be wrong about this, as only God knows a man's heart.
In any case, it's still not safe to vote for a democrat. Not morally safe, socially safe, nor safe for the sovereignty of the United States of America.
All segments voted in larger numbers than 2000.
While I would never presume to speak for one of our editorial writers, I think it would be safe for me to say: No chance.
That's for starters.
Oh please don't kill me if I have a hard time believing that only the most hypocritical and self-deluded Clymers think to pride themselves on a "moral vote" wherein they managed to politicize that selfsame Favorite Philosopher by bringing him into the political debate even as they -- generally -- exclude Him entirely from the marriage bed they've purposefully rendered every bit as sterile as a homosexual partnership wherein children are but an Option.
I'm asking what the Keyes vote has to do with the vote in Ohio and Florida.
If you are able to answer that without name calling and absurdity, please do.
It's obvious that you are angry that President Bush won, and believe that he's immoral, but your 'rationale' for that position is anything by rational.
Whatever.
Sweet dreams.
My question remains.......what does anything you said in either post have to do with why Ohio and Florida went for President Bush.
Try to make sense now. (It's best to avoid the use of the word "Whatever").
One reason I don't much give a rat's ass about how "Florida and Ohio" went for Bush is because I found it unsettling in the extreme that Ohio would go out of its way to lay a foundation for accusations of fraud by restricting exit polls.
I'm from New Orleans and I've been paying very careful attention to the question of electronic voting every since the so-called "Election Crisis" last time around so you're just going to have to forgive me if I find absolutely no reason to place any faith whatsoever in a system of voting that has ZERO accountability and even goes so far as to cloud or outright ban the only possible "Joe Q. Public" sort of watchdoggedness that would be Exit polls.
That said ...
I really didn't have a dog in this race, OhioWFan. I'm glad you were all excited about it and all but -- as Bush's initial decisions (and his support during the campaign of Specter) have illustrated thus far, I can't imagine how Kerry could have done a better or faster job at screwing over the "pro-life" conservatives who allegedly won Bush the election.
Seems a circus to me. I care deeply about issues but I can't even pretend to take politics seriously anymore.
One issue I do take very serously though is faith. Faith in Christ. I have a very hard time with those who politicize faith (as was so grossly demonstrated among my own in the Catholic Church this election), who pretend for a moment that pragmatism is compatible with Christianity or who dislocate their shoulders patting themselves on the back for their Great Moral Duty that was electing a politician who they KNOW FOR A FACT, given his track record as governor and as president, is not exactly a "pro-lifer".
Actions speak louder than words ... save, perhaps, when one speaks only so as to take the name of the Lord in vain.
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