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To: Buggman
I'm not married to the theory the way some people are either. I can therefore look at it skeptically and demand that those scientists promoting it prove it rather than assume it without undermining my worldview.

The reason I go after Creationism is because it's self destructive. See some of my other posts, but the short version is that it forces many people who participate in these Darwinism/Creationism fights into discussing whether God exists at all. When this happens in a Government school setting, as Creationists are demanding to happen, it guarantees that some children will be driven away from God. This is an avoidable tragedy.

Believing in a 6000 year creation or miraculous "poof" creation is not central to any religious denomination I know of. It's just not that big a deal, and religious people making a big deal out of it damages their own interests.

146 posted on 11/19/2004 12:57:03 PM PST by narby
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To: narby

That doesn't seem correct at all. How is it the creationists who are the destructive ones?

The most vitriolic, condescending (and in the case of Mao's China deadly) attacks come from the Darwinist side of the table.

What you call "believing in a miraculous poof creation" others call "believing in a God who created us miraculously". Not a "poof". And it IS a big deal to a lot of people, the belief that God created humans directly, in his own image, and therefore they are special to him. Our morality, intelligence, awareness and faith came directly from Him. The fact that you have never run into a denomination which teaches this (mine does, and it has millions of members) tells me something about you, and not the belief in creation.

See how dismissive and condescending you are? What is it about Darwinism that makes people like you behave this way?

And how can you or anyone deny that there are few scientists who are very religious yet also believe our very existence is random and our origins undirected? I know there are many average people who believe God directed "macro"evolution and while I'd disagree with that belief, that belief is NOT the most prevalent in the "rational", scientific community. Naturalism has been the mainstream in that community for a long time.


163 posted on 11/19/2004 1:24:44 PM PST by DameAutour ("Go carefully. Be conservative. Be sure you are right - and then don't be afraid")
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