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1 posted on 11/19/2004 6:40:56 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

For pete's sake, these guys should have recognized you just can't trust John Kerry. That's why we all voted "Anybody But Kerry"!


2 posted on 11/19/2004 6:42:32 AM PST by muawiyah
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"We are now reaping, in election results, the consequences of the colossal reductions in art education."

LOL. I say we cut their budget some more...

3 posted on 11/19/2004 6:42:52 AM PST by Drango (Those who advocate robbing (taxing) Peter to pay Paul...will always have the support of Paul.)
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"Artists" usually live in a make-believe world.
Reality bites them on the a$$.
4 posted on 11/19/2004 6:43:03 AM PST by grobdriver (Let the embeds check the bodies!)
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Some Freeper's tagline reads something like this "Never argue with an idiot you'll lose everytime, they've just had too much practice"

Love it!


5 posted on 11/19/2004 6:43:42 AM PST by odoso (Millions for charity, but not one penny for tribute!)
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Former water-colorist who became a political powerhouse?

'Nuff said.


6 posted on 11/19/2004 6:44:41 AM PST by proxy_user
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It may be that the American people think these so-called 'artists' are too full of themselves to be taken seriously on serious issues!


8 posted on 11/19/2004 6:46:18 AM PST by NoClones
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John Kerry was a bad candidate. No artist support was going to make a difference in him winning. The "old media" could not even do it.


9 posted on 11/19/2004 6:46:22 AM PST by Moconservative
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Many artists thought thru arts we can find 'the essence of life'... And they don't bother to learn about anything else.


10 posted on 11/19/2004 6:48:13 AM PST by paudio (Four More Years..... Let's Use Them Wisely...)
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They can tell themselves that they lost due to electile dysfunction..


12 posted on 11/19/2004 6:49:10 AM PST by sheik yerbouty
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I say its time to bring back the concept of the "starving artist". Let's start with eliminating the National Endowment for the Arts and all funding and support for PBS. Then we can let the marketplace perform its magic.

(I claim dibs on sales of black berets and begging bowls in blue states).

14 posted on 11/19/2004 6:54:35 AM PST by asgardshill (November 2004 - The Month That Just Kept On Giving)
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Bruce Springsteen organized his fellow rock stars into the Vote for Change tour, with John Mellencamp, the Dave Matthews Band, Pearl Jam, R.E.M, the Dixie Chicks, James Taylor, and others staging concerts to elect Mr. Kerry. Rapper Eminem put out an anti-Bush video. P. Diddy put out "Vote or Die" T-shirts and got multitudes of rap fans to register to vote, and not for Mr. Bush

Yeah, Alan Woods is correct.
We should have taken the advice of these political mental giants. Why I'll bet that the Dixie Chicks even graduated from High School! Of course none of the rest did (IIRC) but so what, High School dropouts have brains too. Why many HS dropouts have went on to be .. ah.. hmmm... well... Rock Stars.

And so what if James Taylor was a HEROIN JUNKIE for about twenty tears, junkies can have deep meaningful thoughts - just don't let one around your children. And P. Diddy was found not guilty of that shooting, so all should be forgiven.

Yep, 'mr' Woods is right, we should have listened to these "artists".

/s

15 posted on 11/19/2004 7:00:08 AM PST by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Gen G Patton)
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I love reading this as a member of the design community in NYC.


17 posted on 11/19/2004 7:01:40 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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bttt


19 posted on 11/19/2004 7:01:57 AM PST by meema
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There was a time when the media was almost totally consolidated into a few movie houses. That was extended to a few TV networks.

That media, being the only audio-visual information source available to any American, was able to create "heroic" stars who had such status that their word probably was a factor in public opinion.

When I think of the powerful figures of that era: John Wayne, Jimmy Stewart, Audrey Hepburn, Huntley/Brinkley, Walter Cronkite, Johnny Carson....it seems natural that their opinions were significant because they were part of a fairly small media elite.

Today's media includes all the above PLUS. There are DVDs, CDs, Internet, Radio, Satellite, cable, etc.

People are inundated with personalities. Stars are no longer "STARS." There are more so-called media stars, it seems, than any one person even cares to keep track of.

They are commonplace, mundane, everyday.

No more important than an actor in a toothpaste commercial.

In other words, they have no impact. But the funny thing -- quite humorous -- is that they see themselves like a bygone era saw a John Wayne. Such an un-self-critical ego is hilarious.

I just don't think that today I'll be letting Linda Ronstadt influence how I vote. Just another media bimbo.

X


23 posted on 11/19/2004 7:33:02 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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Mr. Woods seems to think that art education, fully funded, would teach children to do what artists tell them to do. But genuine art education would teach them about art. That would include understanding what a work of art is saying, so that the child could accept or reject its message. It would also teach discernment about artistic quality. That would go against the current assumption that art is simply whatever an artist does.

After taking dozens of classes in art history, architecture as well as studio art I always understood the fundamental point of the classes was to learn how and sometimes why different messages were expressed via different mediums during respective eras. The studio classes actually taught you how to express a message or an idea. It would be the mark of a very poor art educator to push an idea as correct.

I consistently found my worst teachers to be those who pushed their own ideas as correct. The best teachers were those who encouraged self-expression and the fermentation of concept and idea from the student.

An art educator should never make the artist's message the primary focus of instruction unless the point is to show techniques of expressing a certain message.

25 posted on 11/19/2004 7:42:58 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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This is the old "We didn't get our message out" argument.

Sorry Mr. Woods, your message was in our face for four straight years. And most of us decided that your "message" was wrong.


27 posted on 11/19/2004 7:48:08 AM PST by kidd
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Inspiration without talent brings us modern art.


29 posted on 11/19/2004 7:59:54 AM PST by mr. snrub1 (I guess one person can make a difference. But most of the time, they probably shouldn't.)
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Art is a reflector of culture, not a director.


31 posted on 11/19/2004 8:06:08 AM PST by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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Shows how far removed the ivory tower types are from the 60 million Americans who voted for GWB.

As for the top issue that drove millions of "values voters" to the polls, looks like academia never heard of "campaign strategy." (/sarc)


33 posted on 11/19/2004 8:12:46 AM PST by Liz (The man who establishes the reputation of rising at dawn, can sleep til noon.)
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Ping


44 posted on 11/19/2004 4:01:45 PM PST by rhema
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