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Workers fighting English-only rules
The Denver Post ^ | 11-18-04 | Jeremy Meyer

Posted on 11/18/2004 6:45:46 AM PST by united1000

The Denver Post

Workers fighting English-only rules

While still rare, cases brought against employers who limit language have grown 612% since 1996.

By Jeremy Meyer
Denver Post Staff Writer

Thursday, November 18, 2004 -

Aurora - Luz Ornelas and Guadelupe Coronado say they were humiliated and degraded when their boss forbade them from speaking their native Spanish while working at a Family Dollar store on East Colfax Avenue.

Not long after, they say, they were fired along with five other Spanish-speaking employees and replaced with workers who spoke only English.

The women recently filed a lawsuit in federal court, saying their civil rights were violated and asking for unspecified damages.

Employers in Colorado and nationwide are increasingly wrestling with language issues as the workforce diversifies.

Claims against workplace English-only rules have increased 612 percent, from 32 cases in 1996 to 228 in 2002, according to the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.

But they're still only a fraction of the EEOC's 9,000 annual claims of national-origin discrimination.

Legal experts say the number is low because workers don't know about the law or are worried about losing their jobs.

The dollar-store litigation joins a recent filing against a Northglenn McDonald's restaurant, where the accuser says workers were forced to deposit 25 cents into an "English-only" cup every time they spoke Spanish. McDonald's corporate officials say they have no English- only policies.

Federal rules forbid blanket English-only policies in workplaces. However, EEOC rules allow employers to have language policies if they can prove they're for a "business necessity" or for safety reasons.

In general, the EEOC prosecutes only a handful of English- only cases every year.

David Grinberg, EEOC spokesman, said more English- only claims are being filed as the workplace diversifies.

"We see it as a growing trend," he said. "We're trying to strike a balance between businesses and employees speaking their native language."

Grinberg said the EEOC's mission is to help employers learn the law and not to become the language police.

The most recent case in Colorado occurred last year, when the EEOC settled a $1.5 million case against a Black Hawk casino that required its mostly Hispanic cleaning staff to speak only English.

The agency usually investigates claims and issues a "notice of right to sue," allowing individuals to proceed with litigation on their own.

In those cases, courts have sent mixed messages - sometimes ruling for employees and sometimes for employers.

Nevertheless, Denver attorney Leonard Martinez said he continues to hear from people wanting to sue. Many of those allegations involve English-only policies, he said.

"It's an area of the law that employers don't have a grasp on," said Martinez, who represents Ornelas and Coronado. "It's an issue that needs to be addressed."

Ornelas is a 35-year-old single mother of two who worked for $8 an hour as assistant manager at the Family Dollar store. She is from Mexico City and has limited English skills.

Coronado is a 36-year-old mother of three from El Salvador who worked for $7 an hour as a stocker and occasional checker. She cannot speak English. Both women are in the United States legally.

The women said their bosses knew about their limited English skills when they were hired but later demanded they stop speaking Spanish in the store, which serves a predominantly Latino clientele.

"I don't want them to do to someone else what they did to me and humiliate my people," Coronado said recently through an interpreter.

Family Dollar officials wouldn't comment on the case.

English-only advocates fear increasing litigation is creating a chilling effect for businesses.

"These (cases) are going to continue to grow until we have a commitment to have everyone speak English," said Tim Schultz, spokesman and staff counsel for U.S. English Inc., a Washington, D.C., group dedicated to preserving English in the United States.

"Businesses should have a right to have their employees speak English," he said. "The solution is a bigger-picture solution: Make sure immigrants are learning English."

Karl Krahnke, a linguistics professor at Colorado State University, doubts that will work. Most immigrants over 25 years old probably won't become proficient in a new language, he said. And it shouldn't be required, either, he said.

"It is unethical to require them to give up their first language," he said. "If I speak Spanish and we're close friends and you speak Spanish, to be forced to talk about our families, feelings, illness or whatever in English just because we're out of our house is unfair and unnecessary."

Staff writer Jeremy Meyer can be reached at 303-751-2621 or jpmeyer@denverpost.com .



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Luz Ornelas and Guadelupe Coronado say they were humiliated and degraded when their boss forbade them from speaking their native Spanish while working at a Family Dollar store on East Colfax Avenue.
1 posted on 11/18/2004 6:45:47 AM PST by united1000
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To: united1000

I wonder how many of the customers of this Family Dollar store are Spanish-speakers. There are sure a lot of Spanish-speaking customers in the Dollar stores here in St. Paul, Minnesota.

In fact, bilingual clerks often get a little pay boost here.


2 posted on 11/18/2004 6:48:37 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: united1000
If they don't like speaking our lingua nativa they can high-tail their asses back to Mexico where "humiliation" will be the least of their worries. If they want to live and work in this country, they should learn and speak English. Its not up to us to accomodate them.
3 posted on 11/18/2004 6:48:38 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: united1000

This makes me think of those operations the police run to snag fugitive criminals, but instead of throwing a party or giving aways prizes, just deport all the illegals that sign up for the lawsuit.


4 posted on 11/18/2004 6:50:29 AM PST by benjaminjjones
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To: united1000
I'm not anti-immigrant. I think immigration provides a stream of new blood that prevents us from getting stale, as long as those immigrants assimilate. Europe's problem is that their immigrants don't assimilate.

Federal employment law should be amended to permit English-only rules. Speaking English is the best way to push assimilation.

5 posted on 11/18/2004 6:53:26 AM PST by XJarhead
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To: united1000
Does this mean that if I feel humiliated by two of my coworkers who speak Spanish, which I do not, I can sue? For all I know they could be talking about me, and establishing a hostile work place.
6 posted on 11/18/2004 6:55:48 AM PST by Sthitch
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To: XJarhead

"Federal employment law should be amended to permit English-only rules. Speaking English is the best way to push assimilation."

While that's true, of course, it often takes some time for new immigrants to learn English. In the meantime, they need to work.

I'm not talking about illegals. But, take for example the Hmong immigrants in the US. They came here by invitation of our government. It takes them, particularly the older immigrants, quite a while to learn the language. They still have to work, though.


7 posted on 11/18/2004 6:56:05 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: united1000

The only travesty that I find in the whole article is the following.

"Federal rules forbid blanket English-only policies in workplaces."


8 posted on 11/18/2004 6:56:21 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: united1000

This is America, learn the language! My family managed to learn English with no government programs or accomadation. Expert linguists agree, the fastest way to learn a language, especially if one wants to, is by immersion. Learn the language or leave....


9 posted on 11/18/2004 6:57:28 AM PST by Vor Lady
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To: united1000

Were they replaced by people who only KNEW HOW TO speak English, or, were they replaced by people WHO HAD THE GOOD SENSE TO SPEAK ONLY ENGLISH IN THE MIDST OF MAINSTREAM SOCIETY? A critical distinction. I bet it was the latter.


10 posted on 11/18/2004 6:58:19 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: XJarhead

Well,even here at FR, there is a crowd who will declare that any call to assimilate is "racist." Who are they? They are the pan Slavic crowd. Good thing we don't have a pan Latin crowd. Pan movements, the scourge of Europe and one of the root causes of WW2, are now getting a dangerous foothold here in the US and nothing is being done to stop them.


11 posted on 11/18/2004 7:00:51 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: XJarhead
I'm not anti-immigrant. I think immigration provides a stream of new blood that prevents us from getting stale, as long as those immigrants assimilate. Europe's problem is that their immigrants don't assimilate.
 
Federal employment law should be amended to permit English-only rules. Speaking English is the best way to push assimilation.
 
I agree with you. Accommodations for non english speaking immigrants are on the rise to the point where we will end up in the same position as Europe.  Our firefighters here are passed up for promotion if they don't learn to speak spanish etc.. 
 
I agree with:

"These (cases) are going to continue to grow until we have a commitment to have everyone speak English," said Tim Schultz, spokesman and staff counsel for U.S. English Inc., a Washington, D.C., group dedicated to preserving English in the United States.

"Businesses should have a right to have their employees speak English," he said. "The solution is a bigger-picture solution: Make sure immigrants are learning English."


12 posted on 11/18/2004 7:05:17 AM PST by united1000 (If you can read this, thank a teacher.... and since it's in English, thank a soldier)
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To: united1000
...at one time it was consider bad manners to speak a foreign language in front of someone who didn't if you could speak english.

we've gone a long way in the PC wrong direction

from I usually use bad manners daily to I feel humiliated.

great example of how political correctness can damage a society.

Doogle

(I wonder if I can sue my local 7-11 because I felt humiliated in front of the clerks because I couldn't understand them?)
13 posted on 11/18/2004 7:08:04 AM PST by Doogle (8th AF...4077TFW....408MMS....Ubon Thailand "69"..Night Line Delivery ..AMMO)
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To: united1000
Can you at least require them to know how to speak English and speak English to customers?
14 posted on 11/18/2004 7:11:20 AM PST by bahblahbah
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To: united1000
Luz Ornelas and Guadelupe Coronado say they were humiliated and degraded when their boss forbade them from speaking their native Spanish while working at a Family Dollar store on East Colfax Avenue.

"At least that's what we think they were saying. We really couldn't understand them."

15 posted on 11/18/2004 7:13:53 AM PST by tnlibertarian
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To: united1000

BTTT


16 posted on 11/18/2004 7:14:34 AM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: goldstategop

I don't see what the big deal is about them wanting to speak spanish... When I visit my girlfriends moms small town in Mexico for a couple of weeks, I love to speak english with an other american I might run into there...


17 posted on 11/18/2004 7:14:54 AM PST by todd1
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To: todd1

The key portion to your question is also your answer.

"When I visit..."

They are not visiting, they are working here.


18 posted on 11/18/2004 7:17:41 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: Doogle
I wonder if I can sue my local 7-11 because I felt humiliated in front of the clerks because I couldn't understand them?
 
I used to feel bad when I have to ask someone to repeat what they said over and over again until I could understand what they are saying, certainly not anymore. This problem comes from our own too. They speak some fractured English without any diction.....

19 posted on 11/18/2004 7:21:06 AM PST by united1000 (If you can read this, thank a teacher.... and since it's in English, thank a soldier)
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To: Bikers4Bush

DO YOU THINK THAT IF YOU WENT TO MEXICO CITY THAT THEY WOULD MAKE SPECIAL DEALS BECAUSE YOU CAN ONLY SPEAK ENGLISH, HELL NO, YOU WOULD STARVE TO DEATH BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T WORK. THIS IS AMERICA WE SPEAK ENGLISH AND ALL WHO COME HERE SHOULD REALIZE THAT AND ADJUST TO IT NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. WE ARE THE ON;Y COUNTRY IN THE WORLD THAT BENDS OVER BACKWARDS TO BE ACCOMODATING.


20 posted on 11/18/2004 7:28:03 AM PST by snowman1
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