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Posted on 11/17/2004 9:24:29 PM PST by nwctwx
"A big, rusty pipe? Ooookkkkkaay."
It was U shaped and it wasn't there last summer. It does have paint on it supposedly from the tanker...testing being done etc.
I wonder what boats (and paid by who) were ahead of this tanker?
PUNTA GORDA, Fla. — Officials at the city water plant on Washington Loop Road called authorities Tuesday to report a man taking pictures of the facility from an airplane.
The chief operator of the plant, Bill Kakritz, told deputies that a man piloting the ultralight aircraft circled above the facility and surrounding rivers. A deputy couldn’t locate the airplane.
In August last year, a water plant operator reported a suspicious helicopter hovering at a low altitude around the facility for about 10 minutes. The chopper, white with a red tail, departed east after the circle-over.
I think that pipe was dumped strategically by a tugboat or some such vessel...too big and heavy for divers to be playing with.
OPINION-SPECULATION:
Unfortunately, my gut feeling is most likely the same as yours.
Can I have a url for that aricle please?
Thanks Jelly Jam.
No url. (It's running in tomorrow's paper.)
All of mine open her posts....
but I did want to post that warning, though.
Thanks Jelly Jam.
Appreciate it.
Thanks Oorang.
I have a hard time with the logistics of this, for several reasons.
- First, the pipe would have to be firmly planted at the proper angle to penetrate the ship's hull and not be driven further into the river bottom.
- Second, the odds of the ship hitting it at just the right angle, at just the right depth, in just the right part of the river are not consistent with the risks involved in planting it there.
- Third, the perpetrators would have to know that ship was going to be passing by, since an oil spill seems to have been the most damaging possible event.
I'm just scratching the surface here, but the description of the pipe and the damage, along with the amount of luck involved, just doesn't add up. I'm holding out for more data.
Mounties warn of Al-Qaida hidden messages
December 8, 2004
By JIM BRONSKILL
OTTAWA (CP) - The RCMP has warned its investigators to be on the lookout for cleverly disguised messages embedded by al-Qaida in digital files police seize from terror suspects.
An internal report obtained by The Canadian Press gives credence to the long-rumoured possibility Osama bin Laden's terrorist network and other extremist groups are using a technique known as steganography to hide the existence of sensitive communications.
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2004/12/08/773871-cp.html
Ooops. Forgot to mention that post 2510 is excerpted.
Report rips national security
Dec. 8, 2004
By STEPHEN THORNE
OTTAWA (CP) — The fact that Canada hasn’t suffered a terrorist attack after 9-11 is largely luck, not good planning and preparedness, says a Senate report.
“When it comes to national security and defence — issues that are not part of the everyday lives of most Canadians — the vast majority of citizens trust in luck,” the national security and defence committee said Wednesday.
“Unfortunately, luck is notoriously untrustworthy.”
In its first “guide book” on military and security preparedness, the committee says Ottawa has made progress dealing with military and security shortcomings during the last year, but significant gaps remain.
It says the government’s most significant reform since the attacks on New York and Washington on Sept. 11, 2001 is consolidation of much of the security file under Deputy Prime Minister Anne McLellan.
But while the Liberal government has released a national security policy, the 315-page report said it “has yet to demonstrate that it is prepared to match resources with its stated objectives.”
Major issues that remain include:
Excerpted
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2004/12/08/773547-cp.html
IMPORTANT: THIS IS SPECULATION and/or OPINION:
AQ specifically and jihadis in general have been known to communicate:
1. by sending messages by messenger, that is hand to hand.
2. before 9-11 by coded messages.
3. sometimes by words or codes in the urls or words or codes in graphics.
4. via satellite phone.
5. via video tapes with certain gestures or props.
6. via audio tapes with certain code words.
7. via istant messaging.
8. via those little phones that show text messages and pictures.
9. via those little palm phones that get internet.
10. via internet chat rooms, forum boards and web sites.
11. by passing out fliers and information pamphlets.
12. by any means possible to get their evil message across.
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http://www.truthusa.com/911.html
http://www.truthusa.com/911news.html
Yup, that's it in a nutshell.
OTTAWA (CP) - Dirty-bomb detectors are being installed at the Ottawa International Airport under a federal project aimed at eventually adding them to air facilities across the country.
The move is intended to stem post-Sept. 11 fears a terrorist will slip a crude radiological device into luggage or onto an airplane. Officials are particularly worried about the possibility of a dirty bomb packed with conventional explosives such as dynamite to scatter radioactive material stolen from a medical lab or industrial site.
Excerpted
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/WarOnTerrorism/2004/12/07/772274-cp.html
Yep.
I wondered about the noise factor as well. However I am no expert there. When you have something as heavy as that ship being hit by such a narrow band...then I don't know if you would hear it. Kind of like if you have a VW bug and rock hits the side of it then you know you have been hit. But if you are driving a semi and rock hits the side of your trailer then you may never know it. I imagine a ship that large and heavy has a lot of back ground noise as it is. Would you hear this if an object cut the hull like a knife? I really don't know.
I made no claim as to how the pipe got there. I only made a speculation on how the damage could have occured.
NANTERRE, France
Abdullah, tall and muscular, with a shaved head and closely cropped goatee, sat on a metal bunk in his cramped cell at the detention center here and described how he got religion.
"When I was in La Santé, I read books about the Prophet," he said, referring to the Paris prison, the third of five jails where he has spent time during the past two years for dealing drugs and stealing cars. When he arrived at the fourth, Fleury-Mérogis, Europe's largest, another inmate gave him a DVD about the life of Muhammad and later, while enduring a three-week stint in solitary confinement, he vowed to devote himself to Islam.
Excerpted
http://www.memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=countries&Area=iran&ID=SP82504
Special Dispatch Series - No. 825
December 9, 2004
No.825
"MEMRI TV Monitor Project -Iranian President Khatami Clashes with Reformist Students at Tehran University"
ARTICLE SNIPPET: "The following are excerpts from reports by various Arab and Iranian TV channels of an address by Iranian President Mohammad Khatami to Tehran University students on Iranian Student Day. Soon after beginning his speech, President Khatami found himself under attack by reformist students, who voiced their disappointment in him. [1] To view segments of the event visit http://memritv.org/Search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=401.
In the coming days, www.memritv.org will be releasing additional never before seen footage of this event."
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